[ExI] powerful image

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Tue Jun 16 16:46:48 UTC 2020


Sad how we keep deserving Pogo's comment.  bill w

On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:40 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> > *On Behalf Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] powerful image
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> How about if a neighborhood forms a collective and places grocery orders
> every week (or some other time frame) and a van rented or owned by the
> collective goes to the stores, loads up, and delivers to the neighborhood
> (to the doorstep for the disabled, or to a central location for everyone
> else)?  I think you can rent a van for a few hours, say half a day, very
> cheaply.  Or someone could go into business and do this for several
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>  bill w
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> Ja.  BillW, we have in my scout troop a family who lived in Ukraine
> through their transition from communism to now a kind of hybrid
> socialist-almost-capitalist.  They teach a particular merit badge:
> citizenship in the world, for they are uniquely qualified, having lived
> under communist, socialist and capitalism.
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> I was at their house recently and she found some images of grocery stores
> in Ukraine in the late 80s and early 90s (during the transition.)  This one
> is typical of what a grocery store looked like in those days in the cool
> months (note the babushka in red in the foreground.)  There wasn’t a lot
> need for advertising, because they could sell everything they received.
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> According to our friends, grocery shopping is waaaaay the hell easier here
> than there: you just go, get what you need, fast checkout, done.  There,
> the lines were very long for everything, so the process of getting food
> took a lot of time investment.
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> Those who are eager to transition to that system don’t know what they are
> asking for:
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> Well, OK.  We can have outdoor farmer’s markets on the burnt-out sites in
> Chicago where grocery stores once stood, set up under tents.  That solution
> will last until about mid-September when the cold winds, blow away those
> tents, which drop out of the sky upon puzzled residents of southern Ohio.
> This would cause the markets there to depend on the denser produce, such as
> potatoes and melons which are less likely to take flight by either wind or
> theft.
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> I suspect the locals will not like the new system as much as the ones the
> rioters burned and looted.
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