[ExI] > Taiwan is standing strong

Thu Mar 19 00:45:08 UTC 2020

From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat
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Subject: Re: [ExI] > Taiwan is standing strong

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 4:32 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> > wrote:

I would NEVER wish for a civil war, but I think you're underestimating the power of asymmetric warfare in that situation.  Gun owners are hardly a bunch of silly rednecks with little hunting rifles.   Many of them are as well armed as a typical infantry soldier in terms of weaponry.  If the will was there to defend/revolt, it would not be an easy fight without resorting to bombing large swathes of the US.

### That's why status-maximizing psychopaths in power (who always want more power) always try to disarm the populace. Nazis did it to Jews, "Democrats" want to do it to us.

>…There, Godwin's law FTW. 

It should have been called Godwin’s Opinion, in my law.  There are times when it is perfectly appropriate to use the best known example of power-abusing tyrants to describe power-abusing tyrants, and multiple levels.

Consider this comment by one of the POTUS candidates:

Ninety-five percent of murders, murderers and murder victims, fit one M.O. You can just take a description, Xerox it, and pass it out to all the cops. They are male minorities, 16 to 25. That’s true in New York, that’s true in virtually every city (inaudible). And that’s where the real crime is. You’ve got to get the guns out of the hands of people that are getting killed. … 

That last sentence slays me.

Oh wait, retract that.  I would then be one of the people getting killed, which means this candidate thinks I must be disarmed.  Perhaps that would make those actually perpetrating the murders safer?  What is that, an OSHA regulation?

>…I'm cooped up at home today like everybody else…

Me too.  Apparently many people think they can’t go outside.  We can still go outside of course.  I certainly did.

>…but I did learn something new. This formula (1+9^-4^6*7)^3^2^85 is interesting for 2 reasons, the first is it uses every integer from 1 to 9, the second reason is that it works out to be 2.718281828459..., if you say that's Euler's constant then you be almost correct but not quite, the formula is not exact, it's only a good approximation of e. How good an approximation? Pretty good, it only starts to go bad afer 18 trillion trillion digits!   John K Clark

That is indeed cool but I have trouble finding how it is good to 18 trillion digits.  Using Taylor series it looks a lot closer than that.

Wolfram gives 18 septillion digits:

 <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/NumberTheory.html> Number Theory >  <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/Constants.html> Constants >  <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/e.html> e >

 <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/RecreationalMathematics.html> Recreational Mathematics >  <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/Numerology.html> Numerology >

 <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/MathWorldContributors.html> MathWorld Contributors >  <https://mathworld.wolfram.com/topics/Barron.html> Barron >

 <javascript:togglelinktrail('NS')> More...

e Approximations

 <http://mathworld.wolfram.com/notebooks/Constants/eApproximations.nb> 

An amazing pandigital approximation to  that is correct to 18457734525360901453873570 decimal digits is given by

(1)

found by R. Sabey in 2004 (Friedman 2004).

It is an astonishing formula.  Surely some meta-programmer who wrote us is having fun watching our mind-boggled expressions at seeing this for the first time.

If you start thinking about it, one realizes there are arbitrarily many really super good approximations for e, formed by taking a verrrrry small number, adding 1 and raising the result to a reeeeeaaaally big number.  This one is crazy close however, and using all 9 of the first integers is really cool.

spike

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