[ExI] Fermi Paradox and Volvo star systems

[William Flynn Wallace]

>
> >> Why would they do that? The chief pleasure of many extroverts in
> talking with people and sharing ideas and so on.
>

But if somebody had total control of their emotional control panel then
they could change that so their chief pleasure would come from whatever
they wanted it to come from.  John

>From what I read, solitary confinement is truly a horrible form of
punishment.   Some people go bats after just a few days.  There is
something very basic about being around other people  Way back in history
being kicked out of a tribe was the worst punishment possible.  The victim
usually tried to get into another one rather than live alone, which would
have been a very spare life at that.

I don't know if the mind is totally changeable.  I suspect it isn't.  On
Quora I find a lot of questions about changing one's self, one's habits.
The reason is that they are difficult to very difficult to accomplish.  In
uploads it might be easy, but if I liked sour cream blueberry pie, which is
in the oven as we speak, why would I want to change that?  If I were an
introvert upload and wanted to change to extrovert, I could, but why would
I?  I am comfortable with what I have.

I dunno.  A lot of this seems so artificial, and of course that's all it
is.  I am deeply romantic and would hate to see that changed in any way.  I
hate what we are doing to this planet and don't want to live in a habitat
circling Jupiter or somewhere.  Why mess with perfection?

bill w

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:20 PM John Clark via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:37 PM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> >  Once they are uploaded and happy to the point that they have let all
>>> their social connections lapse -
>>>
>>
>> >> Why would they do that? The chief pleasure of many extroverts in
>> talking with people and sharing ideas and so on.
>>
>
> But if somebody had total control of their emotional control panel then
> they could change that so their chief pleasure would come from whatever
> they wanted it to come from. A cheap rubber ball is easier to come across
> than other people that are friendly, intelligent and eloquent, so to
> maximize their pleasure they could just change the settings on a few
> switches on their control panel and make it so they find equal joy and
> NEVER get bored of watching the ball bounce up and down and up and down and
> up and down and up and down and....
>
> They may want to have the same feeling of awe and pride of accomplishment
> that Einstein must have felt on the day he finished the General Theory Of
> Relativity, but what if they aren't as smart as he was? No problem, they
> could just find a solution to some problem that was much much much simpler
> than the one Einstein tackled and feel just as good and full of pride as he
> did.
>
> Do you think everything I've said is diabolical as well as stupid? No
> problem, just change your mind, and I do mean CHANGE YOUR MIND. Now you
> think the idea is angelic and brilliant. Such is the power of positive
> feedback that ET may not have gone out with a bang or a whimper but with a
> moan of pleasure.
>
> John K Clark
>>
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