[ExI] Giving up autonomy for cryogenic suspension

[Will Steinberg]

I don't think it's possible to assess the monetary price of waking up
someone cryogenically in 100 years.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:41 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> It seems certain that reviving us will be expensive, the kind of
> "expensive" likely to be done to finally relieve Alcor or its descendant
> organization from having to keep us frozen.
>
> While it is possible we may be forced to labor to pay off debts (despite
> having prepaid our suspension), that kind of "expensive" can't be paid off
> with simple slave labor - sex or otherwise.  Far more likely is that we
> will wake up with few or no resources (whoever wakes us up thinking that
> having done so is a sufficient investment in resources to resolve their
> obligation to us), akin to the modern homeless, and need to labor to
> survive.  Either way, it is likely that robots will have taken over most
> menial labor jobs by then, leaving only types of labor that is at least
> mildly intellectually stimulating.
>
> Granted, this is not guaranteed - but no situation where you must trust
> someone else can be.  In these cases, the best that can be done is to
> ensure that the outcome you desire is in the best interests of the one you
> must trust, and that seems to be the case in this situation.
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:59 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> One of my personal nightmare scenarios is being frozen, having my body
>> stolen in the hundreds-of-years interim, and waking up imprisoned as some
>> kind of fucked up slave, possibly a sex slave.
>>
>> I've never heard anyone talk about this but in my opinion it's a huge
>> issue.  You are trusting people with your body, not just to keep it alive,
>> but to keep it safe from interlocutors.  How is it possible to guarantee
>> safety over these time periods?  Who's to say Alcor doesn't go bankrupt, or
>> suffer a burglary, in 70 years or something?
>>
>> Is there any philosophically rigorous solution to this?  The only thing I
>> can really think of is some kind of system that would wake you up
>> periodically to check on things and decide if you wanted to stay frozen,
>> but that's likely not possible (at least yet.) Any security can be broken,
>> right?
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