[ExI] Giving up autonomy for cryogenic suspension

[Adrian Tymes]

Not precisely, no.  But it is so unlikely that it is not worth considering,
that reviving someone would cost no more than a good meal or other such
small expense.

On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 8:48 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I don't think it's possible to assess the monetary price of waking up
> someone cryogenically in 100 years.
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:41 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> It seems certain that reviving us will be expensive, the kind of
>> "expensive" likely to be done to finally relieve Alcor or its descendant
>> organization from having to keep us frozen.
>>
>> While it is possible we may be forced to labor to pay off debts (despite
>> having prepaid our suspension), that kind of "expensive" can't be paid off
>> with simple slave labor - sex or otherwise.  Far more likely is that we
>> will wake up with few or no resources (whoever wakes us up thinking that
>> having done so is a sufficient investment in resources to resolve their
>> obligation to us), akin to the modern homeless, and need to labor to
>> survive.  Either way, it is likely that robots will have taken over most
>> menial labor jobs by then, leaving only types of labor that is at least
>> mildly intellectually stimulating.
>>
>> Granted, this is not guaranteed - but no situation where you must trust
>> someone else can be.  In these cases, the best that can be done is to
>> ensure that the outcome you desire is in the best interests of the one you
>> must trust, and that seems to be the case in this situation.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:59 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> One of my personal nightmare scenarios is being frozen, having my body
>>> stolen in the hundreds-of-years interim, and waking up imprisoned as some
>>> kind of fucked up slave, possibly a sex slave.
>>>
>>> I've never heard anyone talk about this but in my opinion it's a huge
>>> issue.  You are trusting people with your body, not just to keep it alive,
>>> but to keep it safe from interlocutors.  How is it possible to guarantee
>>> safety over these time periods?  Who's to say Alcor doesn't go bankrupt, or
>>> suffer a burglary, in 70 years or something?
>>>
>>> Is there any philosophically rigorous solution to this?  The only thing
>>> I can really think of is some kind of system that would wake you up
>>> periodically to check on things and decide if you wanted to stay frozen,
>>> but that's likely not possible (at least yet.) Any security can be broken,
>>> right?
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