[ExI] Memes: Chad Transhumanist versus the Virgin Anarcho-Primitivist

[Dan TheBookMan]

The usual meaning of empire is where one group or person rules over a
diverse group of others, and the implication is the rule not
voluntary. One doesn't think of the Roman Empire as an array of
diverse peoples all happily going along with whatever the czar wanted.

And in the case of creating conscious beings who are loyal by design
seems hideous, no? Is that the future you envision? I'm talking about
conscious beings where I think the important point is they be free to
choose. If they're designed with loyalty baked in, then any hope of
freedom has been erased and your vision here seems dystopian -- the
kind of nightmare future that feeds into the primitivist mindset.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 7:49 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> Empire implies a ruler. Is that the goal? To populate an empire and
>> then rule over those conscious beings?
>
> Remember that he can design them.  Did he create them such that they
> actively want his rule - that loyalty to his empire is embedded in their
> souls?  Or is he more of a coordinator, "ruler" mostly in name but delegating
> the bothersome details to robots programmed to prioritize the well being
> of those they make and enforce laws for?