[ExI] bikers again

[Henry Rivera]

We do that in Mass. But I see your point that all places should do so. The Feds could strong-arm standardization among the states by, say, making some funding contingent on it. We need(ed) better leadership for that to have happened if you ask me.

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> On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:30 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> 
> ?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henry Rivera <hrivera at alumni.virginia.edu> 
> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2020 2:12 PM
> To: ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> Cc: spike at rainier66.com
> Subject: Re: [ExI] bikers again
> 
> What does this refer to specifically?
> 
>>> On Sep 4, 2020, at 4:08 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> and the failure to break out nursing home deaths,
> 
> 
> Hi Henry, take all covid fatalities, separate all those who lived in a
> nursing home or long term care facility.  List the numbers separately.
> Here's an example of where that is being done:
> 
> https://www.sccgov.org/sites/covid19/Pages/dashboard-cases.aspx
> 
> This is useful information.  The green bars are nursing homers.  Looks like
> about half of the fatalities are there, and we already know the really
> super-annuated almost all live in a nursing home.  But if we treat those as
> two separate groups and do our demographics similarly, the risk to older
> non-nursing homers isn't nearly as disturbing, and Henry there is a reason
> why I keep going on about that.
> 
> Any distortion of the risk picture introduces new risks.  
> 
> For instance... my father's second cousin is one of my genealogy partners.
> He lives practically within walking distance of the hospital where I was
> born (he was born there too) and has never moved.  It is a small hospital:
> everybody knows everybody there.
> 
> When the covid emergency began, many regular customers stopped coming.  My
> cousin continued but he isn't afraid of much (he faced the Viet Cong in
> 1963, a virus doesn't scare him.)  Not enough customers, the hospital had to
> close its doors.  He didn't re-establish contacts at the hospital over in
> the big city.  His prescriptions ran out.  Fluid built up around his heart,
> he wound up in the ER at the hospital he had previously refused to
> patronize, hoping for the best with his congestive heart failure.
> 
> He survived after a really bad night hooked up to the old blibbity beepers
> (his term (wonderfully descriptive (not overly technical (but everyone here
> knows what he means.))))
> 
> But otherwise he would be an example of a patient who died OF covid WITHOUT
> covid.
> 
> Distortion of the risk matrix introduces new risk.
> 
> spike 
> 
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