[ExI] simulation stat goofiness

Darin Sunley dsunley at gmail.com
Fri Sep 18 15:07:20 UTC 2020


The simulation argument, in order to remain academically respectable, is
intentionally phrased very conservatively so as to avoid anything that
could be attacked as "speculation". As was pointed out upthread, it's
already toeing a very fine line between "respectable" naturalistic
philosophy and what Vinge so memorably referred to in A Fire Upon the Deep
as as "applied theology", so it very scrupulously avoids even stating it's
own first order implications, let alone speculating on its second-order
implications.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 9:01 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> @Spike: I'm shocked that Bostrom et al. have never seemed to address this,
> or what they believe the world of the simulator is like, and whether it's
> probable that the simulator is in a simulation too.  It's a half-assed
> concept for sure.
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> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:33 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *Will Steinberg via extropy-chat
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>> >… But if you keep applying this argument, eventually we reach a world
>> which has so many levels of simulation in its simulations, that it's rare
>> enough that their world is likely to be real…  Will
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>> This is a most clever argument my son.  But I can assure you, it is all
>> sims all the way up.
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>> spike
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