[ExI] Fwd: Space governance

[Giulio Prisco]

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 9:12 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On 27/09/2020 06:37, Anton Sherwood wrote:
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> n 2020-9-26 07:04, Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat wrote:
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> The virtual worlds scenario is much much more likely, I agree. And that can integrate with uploading too, so I'd expect even when (or if, for the pessimists) we do crack uploading and it's widely available, people will still live largely in virtual environments, wherever they are physically located. And there's a humongous amount of living room available in the solar system, even more so when you only need a few cubic millimetres of space to live in.
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> On yet another hand, what if micro-humans lived in the physical world, "living lightly on the land"?  How many could live off the amount of power consumed by, say, a rabbit?
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> I don't understand why that's an 'on the other hand'. Minds need a substrate to exist in, whether or not they're biological, and uploads will very likely ultimately need very little physical resources (ultimately, but not at first, when the technology is being refined).

I guess far future technology will permit going beyond micro/nano
scales and upload consciousness directly to quantum fields, or
whatever lies beneath quantum fields. Arthur Clarke hinted at this
concept in 2001:

"In their ceaseless experimenting, they had learned to store knowledge
in the structure of space itself, and to preserve their thoughts for
eternity in frozen lattices of light. They could become creatures of
radiation, free at last from the tyranny of matter.
Now they were lords of the galaxy, and beyond the reach of time. They
could rove at will among the stars, and sink like a subtle mist
through the very interstices of space.”


> I'm envisaging a situation where your mind is running in a substrate that only occupies a few cubic millimetres, and needs substantially less energy than a human brain (this is not a superintelligent mind, just human-equivalent). Whether or not you also control robotic bodies (which could be any size), you'll still have access to virtual worlds, so you'd be able to live in both the 'physical world' and whatever virtual worlds you choose, in whatever combinations you choose (e.g. various flavours of augmented reality, etc. You could really blur the distinction between 'virtual' and 'real' until it was pretty much meaningless. That awful film "Valerian and the city of a thousand planets" gives a partial glimpse of what I mean). I expect this to be true of all uploads, whether they stay on earth or not.
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> Anton, would you please set your replies up so they don't CC me as well as posting to the list? I don't need both. Thanks.
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