[ExI] oh hey, why didn't we do this sooner...

[Adrian Tymes]

And perhaps I should be a bit more clear: I only say "practically
nonexistent" because I lack the data to prove literal nonexistent of the
rapist-falsely-claiming-transgender side.  It seems likely to be literally
zero - if there was even one remotely plausible actual case, the
transphobes would likely make major efforts to publicize it, yet no such
effort is in evidence - but absence of evidence is not proof of absence.

I, too, would prefer a landslide either way - a true one.  Unfortunately,
the way the polls are going these days, if election results indicate a
Trump landslide, the results will likely have been fabricated...and if
Biden gets a landslide, there will be a long series of legal battles by the
Republicans claiming without much (if any) evidence that the results were
fabricated.  I wouldn't put it past Trump's people to attempt to detain and
replace certain electors, well after Election Day, and/or have
Republican-controlled state legislatures submit their own electors in
states where Biden won, with the Senate insisting that whichever electors
vote for Trump must be the true electors.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 6:48 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Fair enough, and I apologise for the tone.  I agree in and of themselves
> there is nothing wrong with either procedure, but as the US social fabric
> continues to fray, I fear this election is going to be a disaster if it is
> a close one so I would prefer a blow out regardless of winner.
>
> The patchwork of state laws around election procedures is going to
> exacerbate discord if things are close even without any fraud.
>
> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020, 9:39 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 6:28 PM Dylan Distasio via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd put the chances of voter fraud, particularly in the current cycle
>>> with widespread mail in ballots and legal ballot harvesting, as much higher
>>> than those of your other scenario.
>>>
>>
>> Fair for the current year - not because of mail-in ballots and ballot
>> harvesting (neither of which are themselves fraud), but because of the
>> escalation of tactics.
>>
>> I was thinking of previous years, where we have solid documentation of
>> the rarity.  For previous years, while the numbers are indeed much higher
>> for voter fraud than the other thing, they both fell into "practically
>> nonexistent".
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