[ExI] to my fellow renaissance life forms

[SR Ballard]

I like their work, I give them money. It’s not complicated. 

I will often buy a physical or electronic copy of a book I have pirated, if I liked it. I buy merch from bands, pay for concert tickets, buy tracks. I donate money to streamers... 

Piracy is no different than borrowing your friend’s book/CD/movie. If you enjoyed it, you’ll get a legit copy for yourself. 

SR Ballard

> On Aug 18, 2021, at 9:39 AM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> 
> OK Ballard - you come up with a fair way to pay the people whose creativity and sweat produced the songs.   bill w
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>> On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:04 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> So the library pays $9.99 and tens of thousands can listen, how is that any different than piracy, assuming one person pays for the album? 
>> 
>> I can also listen to a friend’s CD as many times as I like. 
>> 
>> It’s illogical. 
>> 
>> SR Ballard
>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:33 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>> 
>>> SR Ballard via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> I just don’t understand how pirating a CD and listening to it at the library are any functionally different. The library paid for it.  When a radio station plays a song they have to send money to ASCAP (I think - something like that)   bill w
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:22 PM
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>>>> SR Ballard
>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:29 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Honest as the day is long:  me.  Mr. Morality.  Now when all this computer stuff really got going, and you could download music and not pay for it, it ruffled my feathers:  the musicians were being cheated.  This was wrong (and is still wrong).  I discussed this with some of my classes, and they could seem to find no moral problem here:  if they could do it, they did it - a full apple tree with no farmer around - whatta ya expect?  I am still disappointed in those students robbing the people who were giving them so much pleasure.  It did teach me more than I knew at the time about people.  bill w
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:47 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:51 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Things seem to be getting worse instead of better. Farmers can't fix their own broken tractors, musicians are afraid to make music for fear of being sued, you can end up in jail for taking apart your games console..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For what it's worth, there are legislative efforts to fix the first of those (look up "right to repair"), and the last is apparently no longer a thing if it ever was.  As to musicians - only very certain specifics of music; bands are making music every day all across the USA with no fear of the courtroom.
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