[ExI] to my fellow renaissance life forms

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 18 13:36:57 UTC 2021


OK Ballard - you come up with a fair way to pay the people whose creativity
and sweat produced the songs.   bill w


On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 1:04 AM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> So the library pays $9.99 and tens of thousands can listen, how is that
> any different than piracy, assuming one person pays for the album?
>
> I can also listen to a friend’s CD as many times as I like.
>
> It’s illogical.
>
> SR Ballard
>
> On Aug 17, 2021, at 9:33 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> 
> SR Ballard via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> I just don’t understand how pirating a CD and listening to it at the
> library are any functionally different. The library paid for it.  When a
> radio station plays a song they have to send money to ASCAP (I think -
> something like that)   bill w
>
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:22 PM
>
>>
>> SR Ballard
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2021, at 5:29 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Honest as the day is long:  me.  Mr. Morality.  Now when all this
>> computer stuff really got going, and you could download music and not pay
>> for it, it ruffled my feathers:  the musicians were being cheated.  This
>> was wrong (and is still wrong).  I discussed this with some of my classes,
>> and they could seem to find no moral problem here:  if they could do it,
>> they did it - a full apple tree with no farmer around - whatta ya expect?
>> I am still disappointed in those students robbing the people who were
>> giving them so much pleasure.  It did teach me more than I knew at the time
>> about people.  bill w
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:47 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
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>>> On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 3:51 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
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>>>> Things seem to be getting worse instead of better. Farmers can't fix
>>>> their own broken tractors, musicians are afraid to make music for fear of
>>>> being sued, you can end up in jail for taking apart your games console..
>>>>
>>>
>>> For what it's worth, there are legislative efforts to fix the first of
>>> those (look up "right to repair"), and the last is apparently no longer a
>>> thing if it ever was.  As to musicians - only very certain specifics of
>>> music; bands are making music every day all across the USA with no fear of
>>> the courtroom.
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