[ExI] 'Copyright' (Was: Re: to my fellow renaissance life forms)

[SR Ballard]

Pirating doesn’t “steal a book”. It was never printed. The costs of me reading this book I don’t own are exactly the same as if I don’t read it. Stealing a book means someone paid to print that copy and now can’t sell it. I have never done something like that. 

SR Ballard

> On Aug 21, 2021, at 6:33 PM, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> It all depends on how it was obtained.  A library book and a stolen book:  both you did not pay for.  But a huge difference.   bill w
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>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 5:10 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> There’s literally no difference between reading a copy of a book you didn’t pay for, and reading a copy of a book you didn’t pay for. And no difference between listening to a song you didn’t purchase, and listening to a song you didn’t purchase. 
>> 
>> SR Ballard
>> 
>>>> On Aug 21, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Dave Sill via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 8:27 PM SR Ballard via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>>> So the difference between two things, in your opinion is nothing. But I have to pretend their different because idiots made some law.
>>> 
>>> No, there's a distinct difference between borrowing a legal copy and making an illegal one. If you don't see that, I'm sorry, but that's not my problem. 
>>> 
>>>> You also feel it would be best if I never listened to new music or read new books, because of a difference you cannot explain.
>>> 
>>> Don't put words in my mouth, please. I think it's better if most people follow the law. I don't personally care what you do.
>>>  
>>>> And because I never listen to or read anything new, I will never buy new albums or books, and thus I will provide even less income to these people, than I would if I read them and then purchased them.
>>> 
>>> Join a library. Listen to the radio. Buy a computer or phone that allows you to play youtube videos or listen to radio stations and podcasts. Borrow from friends.
>>>  
>>>> So yes, let me avoid all this “piracy” and actually contribute even less money to creators than if I did pirate. That makes so much sense. 
>>> 
>>> Sounds to me like you're trying to rationalize your actions. That's fine by me. Do whatever it takes to feel good about yourself. I've ripped a CD or two in my life. Content producers know that this happens at the individual level and that preventing it is impossible. But when something like Napster comes along that really does impact them and is an easy legal target, it will get taken down.
>>> 
>>> -Dave
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