[ExI] vaccine dark humor

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 27 01:01:25 UTC 2021


It doesn’t reduce to the percent chance of dying or the percent chance of
going to the hospital.  spike      ???  I thought vaccines prevented the
infection or lessened the symptoms if the person was exposed.  Are these
wrong?   bill w

On Sun, Dec 26, 2021 at 6:49 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat
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> >…I don’t think it was ever promised that the vaccine would be permanently
> effective….
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> It would be an interesting study to find what was written about it at the
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> >… The closest comparison was with the flu vaccine…
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> It would be analogous if not for the enormous social pressure to get these
> vaccines.  Without mandates, those are comparable.
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> >…which needs to be changed every year…
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> That shoulda told us something very important Stathis.  Flu virii mutate
> quickly.  At some point we might need to rely on natural immunity from a
> relatively benign variant.  Always the unreasonable optimist, I am seeing
> in the data indications that omicron might be that variant.  It might also
> turn out that our best efforts at preventive treatment is chasing the wind.
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> >… But even if the vaccines were not very effective, say if they only
> decreased the risk of dying from COVID by 10%, they would still be
> worthwhile, because 10% of many millions is still millions of lives saved.
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> -- Stathis Papaioannou
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> The problem is that the risk/benefit model isn’t that simple.  It doesn’t
> reduce to the percent chance of dying or the percent chance of going to the
> hospital.  Agree that’s a big part of it.  But those numbers are hard to
> estimate, partly because of our own legal system with regard to privacy of
> medical records.
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> I will make a confident prediction: for years to come, we will be seeing
> people blaming the covid vaccine for any childhood maladies and the usual
> general weirdness of children born to mothers compelled to take this
> vaccine against their will.  For a large segment of the population, the
> vaccine will be blamed for everything that goes wrong medically, especially
> that goes wrong with children born after the mother was pressured to take
> these vaccines.
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> spike
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