[ExI] covid or cold?

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Thu Dec 30 06:26:52 UTC 2021


The prodigal father returns!

@Adrian: he didn't say it was easy, though.  Eating less IS how to lose
weight.  It's pretty much the only way.   Yeah, you get more hungry, but
you have to deal with it.  I understand addiction all too well as I was
addicted to heroin 5 years ago.

On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 12:17 PM Max More via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> "If only you could reduce the risk of obesity by 90% at the cost of $20
> and a sore arm for a day."
>
> You can reduce the risk of obesity at a cost of zero. Actually, the cost
> is negative, since it involves buying less food.
>
> The difficulty is not the cost, it's the mindfulness and incentive to do
> it.
>
> --Max
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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> on behalf
> of Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 24, 2021 3:27 PM
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> *Cc:* Stathis Papaioannou <stathisp at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] covid or cold?
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> On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 07:39, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> For me personally it's far far less than 1% (I'm 29 and healthy,) for
> young healthy people it's more likely they die of a car accident or drug
> overdose.
>
> Also, why does nobody in the mainstream ever talk about obesity with
> this?  Pretty much every young person you see dying from this is obese.
> Yet of course we have this medically dubious "healthy at every size"
> movement that makes people feel good mentally at the expense of their
> physical health.  People have no issue criticizing drug addicts but
> criticizing food addition is a no-no, apparently.  Losing weight probably
> increases chances of survival more than a vax does
>
>
> If only you could reduce the risk of obesity by 90% at the cost of $20 and
> a sore arm for a day.
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 3:08 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 at 06:40, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> Nah, if you really get deep into internet communities you'll see even the
> vaxlovers are getting tired of this shit.
>
> I'm unvaxed and I still haven't gotten it.  I get enough sleep, don't
> stress much, and practice caloric restriction.  Same for my partner
>
>
> Most people haven’t had COVID and most people who have had COVID did not
> get sick enough to end up in hospital. No-one denies that. But people don’t
> like the idea that there is a 1% chance of dying from it, even though it
> means there is a 99% chance of not dying from it. If 1% of planes crashed
> and killed their passengers, even the healthy ones who eat well and
> exercise, air travel would not be popular.
>
> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 12:34 AM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On Fri, Dec 24, 2021 at 12:05 AM spike jones via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> I keep hearing that the omicron variant looks and acts like a common
> cold.  If so, this is exactly what was predicted: eventually a killer-flu
> mutates into something more contagious and more benign.  What we still
> don’t know is if one brand of covid protects the catcher from the other
> brands.  If it does, then omicron is the end of this tragic nightmare.
>
>
> ### There is immunological cross-reactivity between various Covid
> variants, so an infection provides some protection against reinfection by
> multiple other variants. However, the tragic nightmare is a godsend to
> poseurs and power-grabbers, so I wouldn't be too optimistic that a mere
> lack of lethality will end it ;(
>
> Rafal
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