[ExI] Luciferian Murder?

[Brent Allsop]

Hi Will,
Sorry.  Note taken.  I just so often see everyone exhaustively bleating and
tweeting the same old mostly mistaken arguments, add infinitem all this
effort only polarizing everyone, it is very frustrating to me, when so much
more could be accomplished with far less work.



On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 1:28 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> My main reason for not using it is that Brent shills it far too often.
> You gotta give it a rest, man.  Would be better to just make a thread about
> the website itself instead of soft shilling it in so many other
> discussions.  It comes off as very robotic
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021, 12:04 AM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I have no desire to engage in your Web site (do not bother trying to
>> convince me otherwise: you are unable to address my reasons for not wanting
>> to do so, as you have demonstrated that you will not understand them even
>> if I explain them again), but I can point out a flaw in your reasoning: you
>> assume intent.
>>
>> Most - basically all - behavior that delays resurrection capability is
>> done out of ignorance: the person is unaware of the concept of
>> resurrection, at least in any non-supernatural, potentially-non-fictional
>> form.
>>
>> Most - basically all - of said behavior that is not done out of
>> ignorance, is done out of disbelief: the person is aware that some people
>> believe it is theoretically possible but personally believes those people
>> are mistaken, that it is not theoretically possible and thus that there are
>> no moral consequences for delaying what can never happen anyway.
>>
>> There is either extremely little, quite possibly literally no, behavior
>> that delays resurrection that is performed with the intent of delaying
>> resurrection.  "Manslaughter" would be a more accurate term than "murder".
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 7, 2021 at 6:56 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Fellow transhumanists,
>>>
>>>
>>> We’re seek to build and track consensus around a definition of evil in a
>>> camp we’re newly calling “Liciferian Murder
>>> <https://canonizer.com/topic/114-Evil/3-Luciferian-Murder>”.  If anyone
>>> agrees that this as a good example of evil, we would love your support.
>>> And if not, we’d love to hear why, possibly in a competing camp.
>>>
>>>
>>> Already getting the typical blow back of polarizing bleating and
>>> tweeting from some fundamentalists, but as usual, nobody yet willing to
>>> canonize a competing POV which would enable movement towards moral
>>> consensus.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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