[ExI] the science might be wrong

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 13:32, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >… I am concerned that you are saying that EVEN IF there is good reason to
> believe that millions of lives will be saved by compulsory public health
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> or is there some level of certainty about the efficacy of compulsory public
> health measures that would lead you to say they should be implemented?
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> Stathis Papaioannou
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> Stathis, it sounds like what you are really asking is if there is
> something analogous to the draft, where the government can, under certain
> circumstances, legally order the citizenry (or some portion of it) to do
> something.  As far as I can tell, there is not.  There is no legal way for
> the government to crisis us into obedience to their arbitrary dictates.  I
> noticed that congress never even attempted to pass a law requiring anything
> with regard to covid, nor did any of the state legislatures.
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> If some theoretical much worse pandemic came along, could governments then
> declare something analogous to martial law?  Considering what was done this
> time, I would doubt it.  We wouldn’t believe them.  We don’t believe them
> now: governments all over this planet shredded their credibility with their
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> Constitutionally limited governments like the US wouldn’t be able to
> manufacture political power it does not have.
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I am not asking if the law allows it; laws are made up by people and if
enough people want to, they can be changed. So would you support changing
laws to allow people to be forced to wear masks and forbid them from
congregating in large groups, for example, under any circumstances or do
you think such laws would be so terrible that it would be better to allow
the death of millions, if it came to that?

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Stathis Papaioannou
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