[ExI] the science might be wrong

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 16:00, spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> Somehow these guys still don’t understand why we don’t give them more
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> >…I know you disagree that masks help, buty the question was not about
> that, it was about whether you think that public health measures should
> ever be made mandatory. I thought you were saying that no, even in the
> event that it would save lives, it would be better to let people die than
> force them to wear masks.
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> Stathis Papaioannou
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> OK no worries, I see where the discussion diverged.  The government cannot
> force people to wear anything.  The Nazis already ended that for all time
> with the star of David.  The Fed can require people to wear mask indoors: I
> figure whoever owns the building makes the rules, and the Fed can pressure
> businesses into making that one.  OK.
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> There is now a Federal mandate to wear masks on Federal property, but
> there is no actual penalty for not doing so.  Reason: they already caught a
> guy not wearing one after he had signed the mandate.  Nothing happened.
> Same with the California governor: signed the mandate, then demonstrated
> there is no penalty for ignoring it.  So no, the government cannot force
> anyone to wear a mask.  A business owner can for people who come into her
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> Public health measures in general, such as quarantines: those may or may
> not be enforceable, probably not.  We live in times when we are finding we
> cannot enforce immigration law, anti-rioting law, a lot of basic law.
> Tricky stuff like quarantines: forget it.  California mandated business
> closures for non-essential businesses, but didn’t actually do anything
> about it if they declared themselves essential and stayed open.
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> If the Fed now says do this and that or millions of people will die, we
> now will not believe them.  Its collective credibility went up in smoke
> with the covid response and will not be easily restored in our time.  A few
> states appear to have done the right thing: Florida for instance.  Florida
> opted for light-handed leadership, which turned out to be superior to
> California’s heavy-handed approach.  Perhaps we will make Gov. DeSantis our
> next POTUS.
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> Stathis, pandemics cannot be used to leverage governments into more
> power.  Covid is a crisis that will just go to waste.
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OK, so as I suspected, even if you agreed that mandating the wearing of
masks would save lives, and that it could be adequately enforced, you would
still not support it.


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Stathis Papaioannou
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