[ExI] [Extropolis] OK, stupid or not stupid?

[William Flynn Wallace]

Henry, this is my area and I should be contributing more to it:  attitude
change, persuasion, attitude formation, resistance to attitude change,
conformity, compliance, obedience, and so on.   Will finish that religious
book and try to put together a post.  bill w

On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 3:31 PM Henry Rivera, PsyD <
henryriverapsyd at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is this just the Darwin effect playing out? Nature weeding out from the
> genepool the “stupid” and/or “pretty average” or whatever their nonadaptive
> problem is in this case? If so, we will be collectively better off as a
> result ultimately, no? I’m asking opinions on this, not necessarily
> endorsing this to clarify.
>
> On Jul 18, 2021, at 3:57 PM, SR Ballard <sen.otaku at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I never called them intelligent either. I’d say they’re pretty average.
>
> SR Ballard
>
> On Jul 18, 2021, at 3:35 PM, John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2021 at 2:00 PM SR Ballard <sen.otaku at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *> Not stupid. *
>>
>
> Well let's see, they all have sufficient information to make an
> intelligent decision, in fact they have better information in this case
> than you or I do because they know from visceral first-hand experience that
> COVID-19 can be a very serious disease, and they have observed that every
> single one of their fellow COVID-19 patients in the emergency room hospital
> are unvaccinated just like themselves, and yet even after all that they
> were STILL unable to make an intelligent decision; so they must be lacking
> something, and the only thing I can think of is intelligence. Do you
> really want to call such behavior smart, is that the hill you want to die
> on?
>
> I don't think dreaming up lame excuses for people who insist on turning
> their bodies into petri dishes that cultivate viruses and generate mutations
> , some of which might end up being even more virulent than the current Delta
> variant, demonstrates broad-mindedness, and it certainly doesn't help
> those very stupid people or society at large. Logic will never convince
> them to get the vaccine because logic never played a part in their decision
> not to get it, but if logic doesn't work maybe social stigmatization will
> shame them to do so. Thus I firmly believe the moral thing to do is to give
> these people all the respect they deserve.
>
> John K Clark
>
>
>
>
>>
>> MOUNTAIN HOME, Ark. — When the boat factory in this leafy Ozark Mountains
>> city offered free coronavirus vaccinations this spring, Susan Johnson, 62,
>> a receptionist there, declined the offer, figuring she was protected as
>> long as she never left her house without a mask.
>>
>> Linda Marion, 68, a widow with chronic pulmonary disease, worried that a
>> vaccination might actually trigger Covid-19 and kill her. Barbara
>> Billigmeier, 74, an avid golfer who retired here from California, believed
>> she did not need it because “I never get sick.”
>>
>> Last week, all three were patients on 2 West, an overflow ward that is
>> now largely devoted to treating Covid-19 at Baxter Regional Medical Center,
>> the largest hospital in north-central Arkansas.
>>
>> Mrs. Billigmeier said the scariest part was that “you can’t breathe.” For
>> 10 days, Ms. Johnson had relied on supplemental oxygen being fed to her
>> lungs through nasal tubes.
>>
>> Ms. Marion said that at one point, she felt so sick and frightened that
>> she wanted to give up. “It was just terrible,” she said. “I felt like I
>> couldn’t take it.”
>>
>> Yet despite their ordeals, none of them changed their minds about getting
>> vaccinated. “It’s just too new,” Mrs. Billigmeier said. “It is like an
>> experiment.”
>>
>>
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