[ExI] [Extropolis] emotions and decision making

Tue Jun 29 18:16:18 UTC 2021

As I was saying on HR Ballard's forked '“Lust” and sexual violence' thread,
everyone is talking at the composite qualia level.  All these things are
computationally bound elemental intrinsic qualities.

Evolution has wired taking out the garbage to be composed of disgusting
smells and such, while evolution has wired sex to some very different set
of elemental qualities.  Evolution wanted us to have sex.
There is no reason you couldn't simply reverse engineer these, and wire
them to be the opposite of each other.  Couldn't a simple re-wiring result
in taking out the garbage being orgasmic?

Wouldn't you agree that Dog's enjoyable knowledge of shit must be
programmed to be something very different than the disquieting smells
our brain represents knowledge of shit with, right?

I want to be able to do such reconfigurations, when I want to take out the
garbage.

Again, it is important to differentiate reality and knowledge of reality
<https://canonizer.com/videos/consciousness/?chapter=differentiate_reality_knowledge>
.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:31 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Huh?  I assume that what we want to do brings us pleasure.  It's the
> things we have to do that can be boring and joyless.  bill w
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 12:25 PM Brent Allsop <brent.allsop at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think rewarding pleasures can be wired to anything.  I just look
>> forward to the time when we can cut the puppet strings evolution has wired,
>> so we can wire rewarding joys to what we want to do, instead.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 11:18 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It depends.  Power and control will be factors in a person who
>>> repeatedly rapes - lust more a factor in date rape, I think.  One black man
>>> who wrote a book on it (name escapes me), said he raped white women anally
>>> to make them more humiliated.  Even in date rape there is some control
>>> there.  Lust always there or no action.  bill w
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:39 AM SR Ballard <sen.otaku at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t think that the most normal motivator for rape is lust (except
>>>> perhaps date rape?), but rather power and control.
>>>>
>>>> SR Ballard
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 29, 2021, at 10:33 AM, William Flynn Wallace <
>>>> foozler83 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> How would human behaviour be more or less ethical and/or moral if the
>>>> processes of decision making was conducted in the absence of emotional
>>>> attachment?  from quora
>>>>
>>>> Can’t be done. A man with a brain injury which detached the emotional
>>>> center from the frontal cortex could not make a simple decision. Coffee?
>>>> Could not decide.
>>>>
>>>> So the question is moot: we simply cannot do it. You are assuming that
>>>> all emotional things are irrational. Think of them as nonrational. Emotions
>>>> makes perfectly good sense: we enjoy food, sex, beauty and so on. All great
>>>> emotions.
>>>>
>>>> Fear keeps us safe. Let’s hear it for fear! Of course any emotion can
>>>> be bad. Too much lust could lead to rape. Too much fear leads to phobias
>>>> and shyness. Too much enjoyment of food can lead to obesity, and so on for
>>>> all emotions.
>>>>
>>>> Be thankful for your emotions. Like anything else, they could lead you
>>>> to bad decisions, but without them we are zombies who can make no decisions
>>>> at all.
>>>>
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