[ExI] Can philosophers produce scientific knowledge?

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Mon May 17 21:20:01 UTC 2021


On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 7:18 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 May 2021 at 11:10, Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, but again, let's throw out the irrelevant complexity about what the
>> person is reporting, whether he is reporting it mistakenly, being forced or
>> whatever.  Let's just focus on the facts of the matter of the quality of
>> the experience.  It is ether a fact that the experience is redness, or the
>> experiences is greenness.  The facts of the matter are dependent on the
>> quality of the substrate which the subject is experiencing, as knowledge of
>> the strawberry.  Everything we care about is simply the quality of the
>> experience, which must remain factually consistent, over space and time.
>> If the quality of the substrate of the experience changes, this must be
>> notice.  If not, not noticed, either of which the subject must be aware.
>>
>
> Yes, that’s consistent with everything I have ever said, except for the
> part about “the quality of the substrate which the subject is
> experiencing”, because I think it is possible for the substrate to change
> but the experience to remain the same.
>

No, No.  Your miss interpreting my words, into you incorrect interpretation
of what I'm trying to say.  I'm refiring to the quality of the knowledge,
that must not change, this quality is the substrate, representing our
knowledge, or it is the quality of the substrate, out of which our
conscious experience is composed.  Redness quality of experience must
always be the same redness, throughout space and time, and greenness must
be different, again throughout space and time.  The fact that you represent
red things with knowledge that has a redness quality is a fact about
reality.  It is the quality of this knowledge that is the substrate to
which I am referring.  What you consciousness is like,  is dependent on the
quality of that substrate, representing your knowledge.  If it was
red/green inverted, you could still behave the same, but it remains a fact
that since the quality of the substrate of your knowledge change, you
consciousness would be different.
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