[ExI] china's babies

[William Flynn Wallace]

Adrian, I think that I am just too emotional about this issue.  I have no
doubt that tech can keep up with growth.  I just hate it.  I don't want any
more jungles and trees and habitats of our fellow creatures to give way to
concrete and condos.  I wish we would just stop growing now.  Maybe people
can live in or on the ocean - that would really help.  We already have the
vestigial gills.  Maybe it would be easy to activate them.  I knew a girl
who had an infection in her gills.  bill w

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 12:25 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 9:39 AM William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Other countries are also concerned about low birth rates.  What is the
>> world supposed to do, just get bigger and bigger no end?
>>
>> I understand about fewer young people to support old peoples' social
>> programs, but growth and more growth is unsustainable.
>>
>
> Incorrect - at least over the next few centuries.  Lots of people confuse
> "to INFINITY" with "realistic near-term growth".  More people confuse
> "we've never had this many before" with "we can only have at most roughly
> this many".  The carrying capacity of the Earth - not even getting into
> space colonization, which will take decades to develop but seems likely to
> start being available later this century - seems to be much larger than
> current use, given the vast majority of Earth's surface that is currently
> essentially unused by humanity, especially the potential to expand
> sustainable aquaculture.  (If you've ever read sci-fi where a bunch of food
> came from algae - well, kelp are algae, with many varieties already under
> extensive commercial production, with uses including food.  And that's just
> kelp.)
>
> Granted, infrastructure (including mining & energy) will need to expand to
> support more people - but there will be more people to expand it with.
> More importantly, there will also be more automation, over time, to expand
> it with.
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