[ExI] [Extropolis] NYTimes.com: Want to Save the Earth? We Need a Lot More Elon Musks.

[William Flynn Wallace]

I am for every power source you mentioned and would add nuclear, which I
think is by far our best option.  Of course it just scares people who think
it will explode like the Hiroshima bomb.  I'll bet tricycles have killed
more people than nuclear plants.  Why is everything going off the deep and
radical end?  Where are the moderates in Washington or elsewhere?

I am also a fan of GMOs.  So if what you say is correct, I would fit in in
no environmental organization extant.  bill w

On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 9:26 AM John Clark <johnkclark at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 8:35 AM William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>  > frankly, I would applaud if Greenpeace could sink every whaling ship
>> on the planet.
>
>
> Me too. At one time Greenpeace was best known for harassing whaling ships
> and I thought that was a brave and noble thing and I still do, years ago I
> even donated money to them to help them do it, but later they seem to get
> the ridiculous idea that some problems are so serious that we shouldn't
> think logically about them. And I'm not the only one who believes that;
> Patrick Moore is the guy who started Greenpeace but he was drummed out of
> the organization he founded because he dared to suggest that maybe nuclear
> power wasn't such a bad idea after all.
>
> > What matters to me are the billions of people who are environmentalists
>> in the sense of loving the world, wanting clean air and water, wanting much
>> industrial pollution stopped, enjoying gardening and traveling in nature.
>> I suspect that most of that applies to you, no?
>>
>
> Sure, and I'm for motherhood and apple pie too, but things only get
> interesting when you get down to the nitty-gritty and start talking about
> specifics. Environmentalists never met a power source they didn't hate.
> They oppose geothermal power because it smells bad and causes earthquakes,
> And wind power because it disrupts global wind patterns, is noisy, is ugly,
> and kills cute little birds. And have deep reservations about solar power
> because it's so dilute it requires vast tracts of land that is no doubt
> environmentally sensitive. Environmentalists say there are just too many
> people on this small planet so they seem to suggest that we should all just
> freeze to death in the dark.
>
>  * > **I am an environmentalist*
>
>
> And at one time I called myself a libertarian, but the meanings of words
> change with time and thanks largely to the disgraceful behavior of the
> Libertarian Party I'd be embarrassed to call myself that today. In the
> same way I am an environmentalist in the sense that Patrick
> Moore originally use the word, not the way Greenpeace has debased it
> today.
>
> John K Clark
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "extropolis" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to extropolis+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/extropolis/CAJPayv2%3Dxkg0RcRR%2BTScwmxrourOvqDzAZa_9zNB11S6kvq-yw%40mail.gmail.com
> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/extropolis/CAJPayv2%3Dxkg0RcRR%2BTScwmxrourOvqDzAZa_9zNB11S6kvq-yw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
> .
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/extropy-chat/attachments/20211118/01c39f72/attachment.htm>