[ExI] quora answer

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 08:21, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Oh, I haven't forgotten any history, and the leaders of China are tyrants,
> and all that.  Our own history, particularly in the 20 century, has truly
> awful wars and other things in it.  China doesn't run around the world
> trying to change people with wars who are not going to change (((and
> killing tens of thousands of civilians (collateral damage) while killing
> one member of a radical group (for propaganda purposes), who is immediately
> replaced))).  They hate us in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran etc.
>
> From what I read China is doing good things, say in Africa, to win friends
> with help rather than with guns.
>
> You have to admit that they have made incredible progress since Mao in any
> economic indicator you chose.  I am still unalterably opposed to
> authoritarian governments of any kind.  Including actions of our own
> government.   China is not totally the bad guys we think they are and
> neither are we totally the good guys we think we are.  bill w
>

People tend to be blind to their own system’s propaganda.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 5:03 AM BillK via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 at 06:13, Stuart LaForge via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> >
>> <big snip>
>> >
>> > This is clearly some kind of CCP propaganda piece written by some fan
>> > boy. What part of it made you forget history, Bill?
>> >
>> > Stuart LaForge
>> > _______________________________________________
>>
>>
>> Astro-turfing campaigns have destroyed the information content of social
>> media.
>> Disinformation campaigns mean that lies and propaganda will have
>> millions of posts and supporting articles spread on social media and
>> the internet. Not just China. Russia and western countries also use
>> this system to gain support for their side.
>> The sheer volume of disinformation is overwhelming.
>>
>> See:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing>
>> For China, see:
>> <https://handwiki.org/wiki/Social:50_Cent_Party>
>> <https://handwiki.org/wiki/Social:Internet_Water_Army>
>> There are also patriotic Chinese who join in the campaigns.
>> <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-58922011>
>>
>> Social media has become like a destructive cancer.
>>
>>
>> BillK
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