[ExI] Hazards near your home

spike at rainier66.com spike at rainier66.com
Wed Sep 29 16:39:23 UTC 2021



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From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of
BillK via extropy-chat
Subject: Re: [ExI] Hazards near your home

On Wed, 29 Sept 2021 at 16:11, spike jones via extropy-chat
<extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> Hi BillK,
>
...
>
>>... Nuke plants may be hazardous and create radioactive waste, but at 
> least they are clean and safe for the environment.
>
> spike
> _______________________________________________


>...Nuclear plants seem to have become too expensive to build. The one the
UK is trying to build is way over budget and time schedule...

Ja, they are damn expensive to build, even more expensive to get them thru
the environmental review.  There have been no serious attempts to build new
ones to replace the one in California which are nearing retirement.

>...Home Battery Packs seem to be selling well these days. Often linked to
solar panels for charging...

Ja, and I very much encourage people to buy the hell outta those.  My
neighbor has two teslas and a powerwall plus the roof panels and inverters
to run his house for a few days off of his cars.  With those items he has
over a quarter of a million bucks invested.  Good for him.  

I have a gasoline-powered generator I use for charging my batteries while
remote camping, investment less than 1k.

My neighbor's investment in the power wall is not a power generator, but
rather a storage device.  The roof panels make some power, but not nearly
enough to run the house.  This is typical of Silicon Valley homes: you can
run your lights and computers and electronics from solar panels but not your
HVAC.  The roof space is too small.

>...Power cuts are one of the ways that the world is telling us that the old
lifestyle can no longer be supported...

Ja, but when we went thru those about 20 yrs ago, the power cuts told us to
cut the bullshit and build a natural gas peaker plant, which they did.
Turns out people got serious about LED lighting and adding insulation, so
power demand started to reduce about that time.  2000 was the highest per
capita power use ever for Silicon Valley, after which it trended downward,
but now it is heading back up, as people are cranking up high-powered
graphics/gaming computers to do bitcoin mining.

>...Too many people now...

Ja.  Notice I mentioned per capita power use for the valley.  That is down
about 17% from the peak in y2k, but the number of capitas has gone up
dramatically, which means we consume more power, even before we take into
account the power hungry bitcoiner mines.

>...We have to do things differently if we want to avoid much more
unpleasantness....BillK
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OK how?

I would suggest we start building nuke plants as fast as we can slam them
into the ground.  We start by transferring the cost of permits to build them
from the investor to the agencies responsible for issuing the permits.

spike






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