[ExI] question from quora

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 15:48:42 UTC 2022


I agree about the music.  But don't words like 'fork' come up in chess?
You see the positions and the word applies.  Similarly, the machine parts
all have names and surely they arise at some point.  But I think it is
settled that we can think only in concepts.   bill w

On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 8:56 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
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> *Anton Castleton* requested your answer*Is it possible to learn to think
> directly in concepts rather than words?*
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> is not my field.  What do you think?  Or perhaps, how.  I tried thinking of
> geometric figures but the words kept popping up in my mind.   bill w*
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> Of course.  I can think of a coupla good examples that do not go thru
> words at all.  An instrumentalist hears a jazz lick that he likes, plays it
> back with trimmings on his own horn.  No words are spoken.  A chess player
> plays over a game by a couple of grandmasters, learns come cool tricks, no
> words there.  A mechanical engineer takes a machines apart, sees how it
> works, fixes it, thinks of ways to improve it, no words at all.
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