[ExI] carbs

[William Flynn Wallace]

Is the question somehow wrong?  How can it not be an allergy if it makes
you sick?  Is intolerance just the lower end of the allergy curve?  What
did the allergist say about that?  Makes no sense at all.  bill w

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:04 AM Hermes Trismegistus via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I was tested by an allergist as I originally suspected that my digestion
> issues were due to allergies. As far as I know I am not allergic to any
> foods, but I have many severe intolerances. My body cannot tolerate
> FODMAPs. This is a common issue for people with IBS and IBS is becoming
> more and more common in Western countries.
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> I would definitely recommend high FODMAP foods for those who can handle it
> as those foods tend to be very nutritious. Unfortunately a growing
> percentage of the population cannot handle these kinds of foods. Many
> people are unaware that high FODMAP foods may be the root of their
> digestion, energy, and mood problems. I experienced severe chronic fatigue
> and depression for the majority of my life before I realized my food
> sensitivities. I am fine now, but it goes to show how devastating a
> seemingly harmless diet can be.
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> *From: *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Sent: *Friday, April 22, 2022 11:48 AM
> *To: *ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Cc: *William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [ExI] carbs
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> Carbs are quick hits. Proteins last you for many hours.  Sugary cereals
> don't last - oatmeal does.
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> Yes, you can be allergic to anything.  If something makes you very sick,
> like gluten. I'd call that an allergy.  How are you making the distinction,
> Hermes?  bill w
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> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 5:06 PM Hermes Trismegistus via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> There are several issues with this.
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>    1. Carbs are not as satiating as protein. This can lead to greater and
>    more frequent food consumption which in the end results in more calorie
>    intake.
>    2. I agree with this point. Fruit has fiber which slows the digestion
>    of the sugar and helps prevent blood sugar spikes.
>    3. Onions, apples, milk, yogurt, bananas, and cauliflower are fine for
>    most people. However, onions, apples, and cauliflower are especially high
>    in FODMAPS, poorly digested carbs which can cause gas and bloating and even
>    inflammation in some people.
>    4. Gluten must be avoided by more than just those who are allergic to
>    it. Many people are intolerant, though not allergic. I myself am not
>    allergic to gluten but become very sick if I eat it.
>    5. Pure white sugar does not contain fiber and is too quickly absorbed
>    by the body. This can cause blood sugar spikes and lead to conditions such
>    as diabetes.
>    6. I don’t see anything wrong with this point.
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> *From: *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 21, 2022 5:26 PM
> *To: *ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Cc: *William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> *Subject: *[ExI] carbs
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> According to Susie Bonds, an apparently well-known nutritionist, the
> following are myths:
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> 1 - carbs are fattening; same calorie count as proteins per weight
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> 2 - avoid fruit because of the sugar; the sugars are different from table
> sugar and added sugars
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> 3 - avoid anything white; mostly true, though for bread, pasta and rice
> but don't shun potatoes onions, apples, milk, yogurt, bananas, cauliflower
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> 4 - avoid wheat because of the gluten; only those who are allergic will
> benefit from avoiding wheat
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> 5 - avoid white sugar;  all sugars convert to glucose in the body
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> 6 - don't eat carbs late in the day; no studies support this
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> I suspect that low carb diets work because people eat too many bad carbs;
> i.e. we will tend to overeat carbs where we wouldn't with proteins.  Low
> fat diets went out of style because of studies.  So - eat a balanced diet.
> How retro.   bill w
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