[ExI] carbs

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 at 02:14, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Is the question somehow wrong?  How can it not be an allergy if it makes
> you sick?  Is intolerance just the lower end of the allergy curve?  What
> did the allergist say about that?  Makes no sense at all.  bill w
>

An allergy is a specific immune reaction. An intolerance to a food is not
necessarily an allergy.

On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 11:04 AM Hermes Trismegistus via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> I was tested by an allergist as I originally suspected that my digestion
>> issues were due to allergies. As far as I know I am not allergic to any
>> foods, but I have many severe intolerances. My body cannot tolerate
>> FODMAPs. This is a common issue for people with IBS and IBS is becoming
>> more and more common in Western countries.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would definitely recommend high FODMAP foods for those who can handle
>> it as those foods tend to be very nutritious. Unfortunately a growing
>> percentage of the population cannot handle these kinds of foods. Many
>> people are unaware that high FODMAP foods may be the root of their
>> digestion, energy, and mood problems. I experienced severe chronic fatigue
>> and depression for the majority of my life before I realized my food
>> sensitivities. I am fine now, but it goes to show how devastating a
>> seemingly harmless diet can be.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Sent: *Friday, April 22, 2022 11:48 AM
>> *To: *ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Cc: *William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: [ExI] carbs
>>
>>
>>
>> Carbs are quick hits. Proteins last you for many hours.  Sugary cereals
>> don't last - oatmeal does.
>>
>> Yes, you can be allergic to anything.  If something makes you very sick,
>> like gluten. I'd call that an allergy.  How are you making the distinction,
>> Hermes?  bill w
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 5:06 PM Hermes Trismegistus via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>> There are several issues with this.
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. Carbs are not as satiating as protein. This can lead to greater
>>    and more frequent food consumption which in the end results in more calorie
>>    intake.
>>    2. I agree with this point. Fruit has fiber which slows the digestion
>>    of the sugar and helps prevent blood sugar spikes.
>>    3. Onions, apples, milk, yogurt, bananas, and cauliflower are fine
>>    for most people. However, onions, apples, and cauliflower are especially
>>    high in FODMAPS, poorly digested carbs which can cause gas and bloating and
>>    even inflammation in some people.
>>    4. Gluten must be avoided by more than just those who are allergic to
>>    it. Many people are intolerant, though not allergic. I myself am not
>>    allergic to gluten but become very sick if I eat it.
>>    5. Pure white sugar does not contain fiber and is too quickly
>>    absorbed by the body. This can cause blood sugar spikes and lead to
>>    conditions such as diabetes.
>>    6. I don’t see anything wrong with this point.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
>> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 21, 2022 5:26 PM
>> *To: *ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
>> *Cc: *William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
>> *Subject: *[ExI] carbs
>>
>>
>>
>> According to Susie Bonds, an apparently well-known nutritionist, the
>> following are myths:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 - carbs are fattening; same calorie count as proteins per weight
>>
>>
>>
>> 2 - avoid fruit because of the sugar; the sugars are different from table
>> sugar and added sugars
>>
>>
>>
>> 3 - avoid anything white; mostly true, though for bread, pasta and rice
>> but don't shun potatoes onions, apples, milk, yogurt, bananas, cauliflower
>>
>>
>>
>> 4 - avoid wheat because of the gluten; only those who are allergic will
>> benefit from avoiding wheat
>>
>>
>>
>> 5 - avoid white sugar;  all sugars convert to glucose in the body
>>
>>
>>
>> 6 - don't eat carbs late in the day; no studies support this
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspect that low carb diets work because people eat too many bad carbs;
>> i.e. we will tend to overeat carbs where we wouldn't with proteins.  Low
>> fat diets went out of style because of studies.  So - eat a balanced diet.
>> How retro.   bill w
>>
>>
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