[ExI] commies vs marxists was: RE: chinese fires, was:RE: book review

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Tue Dec 6 02:04:53 UTC 2022


Idk if it was quite meant to be reassuring.  When people invented guns,
eventually they started firing them at each other.  Rather immediately
actually.

I don't see a way that one doesn't get used soonish.  I know that's grim
but I really strain to see otherwise.

Re: laptop, you really care more about 1 out of thousands of instances of
the government lying, over a global pedo blackmail ring run by the CIA and
mossad, involving all the world's most powerful leaders/CEOs/etc?

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 7:58 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
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> >…It was obviously shady, man.  Lies abound. I just don't think it's a
> hill worth dying on.  The story is dead in the water and you'd do well to
> give up on it. Epstein is a far more important thread to pull on and people
> seem to have largely forgotten that as well.  Pick your battles…
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> Battle?  What battle?  Why is there a battle?  I don’t recall Reason or
> Slashdot mentioning a battle I am requested to pick.  I have no particular
> interest in knowing what really happened to Epstein.  I wouldn’t be
> surprised if he hung himself in one of those suicides he actually carried
> out himself.  His brain must have not been a very fun place to live.  But
> that is little interest to me: I am convinced this world is better off
> without him.  I don’t care who went to his island either, or why.
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> >>…what happens if the USA cannot come to her aid because we are out of
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> >…We will lose more money if Taiwan falls than we could possibly spend
> defending it…
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> While in principle I agree, it still isn’t at all clear to me we have the
> resources to fight China, being as we lack too much manufacturing
> capability to replace the weapons we fire at them and the government was
> already spending trillions of dollars beyond its revenue in peacetime.
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> We have always treated the US borrowing capacity as infinite.  What
> happens when we find out it isn’t?  And when do you suppose that will
> happen?  Might be when Xi attacks Taiwan while we are pouring our resources
> into helping Ukraine with little apparent direct benefit here.
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> My fond hope is you are right and Taiwan can take them alone, for they
> might hafta.  The numbers don’t look good to me, if numbers matter.
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> >…I'm sure we have a plan reserved for Taiwan…
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> I’m not at all sure of that.
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> >…Also, like every other country would help…
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> I am not sure of that either, but what you are describing is world war 3.
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> >…I also think Russia would love the opportunity to turn on China and take
> some of that territory, lest the opposite eventually happen to itself.  Now
> that is a pair of tenuous allies…
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> Agree.  But this is only one possible scenario.  There are others, all
> grim.
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> >…Not nukes, conventional missiles owned by Taiwan.  I probably shouldn't
> have used the term 'glassed'...just destroyed, rather…
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> OK.  But China is too geographically big to worry much over conventional
> explosives.  They have demonstrated a callous disregard for life in how
> they have treated their racial minorities.  They would not give up under
> conventional barrage I fear, even a skillfully aimed one.
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> >… steadily increases reliance on nuclear weapons.  This is a bad thing.
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> >…People use the things they have, so I just assume it is an eventuality…
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> Oh dear evolution.
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> >…Hopefully a small tactical one or series of them, in battle and not on
> civilians.  Maybe that would quell our nuke fever for a while…
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> Quell it or stoke it.
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> >… I don't really think MAD is legitimate but it's a good bluff.  But I do
> think a country that nukes another will face conventional warfare from
> essentially the rest of the world until it is taken over completely.
> Except if the US did it, then I think we might get nuked back if they can
> hit us…
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> Will I know you mean well, but none of what you have written is the least
> bit reassuring.  I have long entertained the fond hope that humanity will
> get past having discovered nuclear fusion.
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