[ExI] Got the jab?
sjatkins at protonmail.com
Tue Dec 6 19:20:16 UTC 2022
You think I am lying. I think that is being a complete ass. You have no basis whatsoever to back up your blatantly stated accusation. Apparently you think more of your own judgment and opinion than of anything I may say about where I was coming from. Well enjoy your own private little echo chamber then. I sincerely hope you get to experience more of the actual world and people around you without such thick filters and prejudgements.
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On Tuesday, December 6th, 2022 at 12:17 PM, sjatkins <sjatkins at protonmail.com> wrote:
> Just assuming I was part of the crowd blaming Asian people is something that bugged me when Stathis seemed to do so. Given that the known first incidents were in Wuhan and that flights to/from Asia were still open for a while there is a small possibility that the detail is relevant from a tracing the infection path POV but wasn't in my mind when I wrote the post.
> In general I think in this time of social media overload and defensive fast filters likely as a result we need to take some care to ascertain where someone is coming from rather than make the first assumption that pops into our heads. I think it is particularly good in a community of people like this that is a bit more filtered, specialized, and sorted for common interests and concerns to assume the best of one another until proven otherwise. I aspire to that anyway. Can't say I always succeed.
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> On Monday, December 5th, 2022 at 11:18 PM, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>> It's a strange incidental detail to mention especially when you wouldn't be saying anything if the dude was white, and you said it in the context of the covid thing which people were blaming on Asian people in general, and you said it in the context of a bunch of other fox-esque babble.
>> I don't believe your response, I think you are lying. I know you are a smart person and I think you're smart enough that you know what words you choose when you choose them. And it would be an intellectual disrespect to you if I chose not to call you out if I thought you were being disingenuous, which I do, so yeah.
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022, 12:55 AM sjatkins via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>> "Does it matter that he was asian"?
>>> Nope, unless it matters to you. Just an incidental detail.
>>> It matters to me that someone is prickly enough to say I or the list am "racist" for that incidental detail being mentioned. What the hell is that about?
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>>> On Monday, December 5th, 2022 at 1:15 PM, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022, 1:32 AM sjatkins via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>>> The Asian kid running the cash register was obviously sick and sweating profusely.
>>>> ...does it matter that he was Asian??? Would you mention if he was white? Or maybe mention if he was obese or elderly, since those are actual qualities that increase the risk of contracting covid.
>>>> Did I miss the memo when this list became racist?
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