[ExI] enough time has passed...

[Stathis Papaioannou]

On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 12:07, Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:35 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:19, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, tell us, oh great gurus:  with the hindsight we have, just what
>>> should have been done re the virus?  What should not have been done
>>> (omitting the obvious mandates)?  bill w
>>>
>>
>> My dispute is with those who say that EVEN IF measures such as mandated
>> mask-wearing and vaccines would stop the pandemic or at least save many
>> lives, they should not be implemented, because fuck other people.
>>
>
> It would save a whole lot more lives to ban cigarettes and addictive foods
> full of sugar and massive amounts of sodium, fat, and carbs.  Or alcohol.
> Or stopping pharmaceutical companies from selling opioids that caused the
> epidemic which is the #1 killer of young people in the USA. Or, idk, make
> everyone wear a helmet when they are driving.  You act like you don't have
> your own personal line on autonomy vs. safety.  We all do.  It's a value
> judgment, and you're acting like it's objective.  Why not do those other
> things?  People pretend they give a shit about others, but they actually
> don't, otherwise they would have said something about any one of those
> issues earlier.  Really, they are just full of fear for themselves, and
> they're pissed off that life was put on hold, and they need someone to
> blame it on.  It NEVER had to do with helping others.  It had to do with
> helping themselves, and blind obeisance to nebulous authority figures
> (again, fear: because when you grow up, you gain the fear that nobody knows
> what the fuck is going on, and you desperately want some authority to just
> tell you everything is going to be ok like your mothers used to.
>

The difference is that with most of those other things you mention people
are only directly harming themselves. Turning yourself into a virus factory
is different.

> --
Stathis Papaioannou
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