[ExI] enough time has passed...

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Sun Jan 23 01:05:57 UTC 2022


On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:35 PM Stathis Papaioannou via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 10:19, William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>> Well, tell us, oh great gurus:  with the hindsight we have, just what
>> should have been done re the virus?  What should not have been done
>> (omitting the obvious mandates)?  bill w
>>
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> My dispute is with those who say that EVEN IF measures such as mandated
> mask-wearing and vaccines would stop the pandemic or at least save many
> lives, they should not be implemented, because fuck other people.
>

It would save a whole lot more lives to ban cigarettes and addictive foods
full of sugar and massive amounts of sodium, fat, and carbs.  Or alcohol.
Or stopping pharmaceutical companies from selling opioids that caused the
epidemic which is the #1 killer of young people in the USA. Or, idk, make
everyone wear a helmet when they are driving.  You act like you don't have
your own personal line on autonomy vs. safety.  We all do.  It's a value
judgment, and you're acting like it's objective.  Why not do those other
things?  People pretend they give a shit about others, but they actually
don't, otherwise they would have said something about any one of those
issues earlier.  Really, they are just full of fear for themselves, and
they're pissed off that life was put on hold, and they need someone to
blame it on.  It NEVER had to do with helping others.  It had to do with
helping themselves, and blind obeisance to nebulous authority figures
(again, fear: because when you grow up, you gain the fear that nobody knows
what the fuck is going on, and you desperately want some authority to just
tell you everything is going to be ok like your mothers used to.)
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