[ExI] enough time has passed...

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Sun Jan 23 18:36:07 UTC 2022


The only problem I have with the 'tough on crime' attitude is that
draconian measures are often used, such as the three and out.

Three felonies of any kind means life in prison.  Some third crimes are
ridiculous in nature but judges hands are tied in most places.  Drug crimes
are the worst.  Small amounts of something put people away for life and
that's just wrong.  Crimes against people, and to a much lesser extent,
property, should be the focus - not victimless crimes.  (please don't tell
me that there aren't such - I am aware of the argument)

This also costs billions of dollars to taxpayers, millions of whom are
committing the little crimes that are putting people in jail for life.

Does anyone know what is happening in Colorado?  Now that pot is legal,
what about the people in jail for simply possessing it?  Should they be set
free?

Tough on crime can mean swatting flies with hammers.  bill w

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 12:16 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…Tribal fear conditioning:  just what did you have in mind here?  It is
> my belief that xenophobia is innate.  Perhaps only the directions of the
> fears are determined by social conditioning.  Is that what you meant?  bill
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> Billw, ja you and I agree on this.  You are right.  It is clear to me that
> xenophobia is innate, but can be suppressed and controlled, just as we can
> learn to control negative emotions such as anger and fear.  Xenophobia is a
> negative emotion that societal evolution has placed in human kind (and
> every other kind for that matter.)
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> Over time, our lives have become safer (by a lot.)  The notion of treating
> everyone as equals has a chance to grow into reality if we can maintain a
> safe society, where fear is low and trust is high.
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> A society which is soft on crime results in more crime, which results in
> more fear and distrust, which results in reduced acceptance of those less
> similar which results in crackdowns on crime.  This notion is in harmony
> with Pinker, Dawkins, Geoffrey Miller and to a large extent even Nicholas
> Christakis.
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> Billw, I have very little cognitive dissonance on the topic of human
> nature.  It is clear enough to me how we got to be the way we are, and
> where we are going from here.
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