[ExI] People often think their chatbot is alive

Giovanni Santostasi gsantostasi at gmail.com
Wed Jul 13 20:10:47 UTC 2022


Ben,
I agree with you, also I agree with Kurzweil that merging with AI
eventually is the only solution to them replacing us eventually.
Giovanni

On Sat, Jul 9, 2022 at 3:22 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 7, 2022 at 3:22 PM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
> The main issue regarding this affair is NOT really if LaMDA is conscious
> or not, but rather:
> 1. Who decides ...
>
> OK, but who decides who should be able to decide these things? And perhaps
> more importantly, or at least more significantly, how can such decisions be
> enforced?
>
> I reckon that this is similar to global warming and autonomous weapons
> (well, it's almost the same thing as autonomous weapons, really). Too many
> groups will see the short-term advantages and ignore the wider/longer term
> potential disadvantages of AI (of all stripes) and how they should be
> treated, to allow this to be controlled by someone else. The world is a big
> place, and it doesn't matter what rules and regulations are put in place,
> or what policy decisions are made in one country or group of countries,
> there will always be others that, covertly or overtly, will disagree and
> disregard them.
>
> Can you see the communist chinese government acceding to, or agreeing
> with, a western decision about who should decide if an AI is 'conscious',
> and how to regulate the creation and use of such AIs? How about the
> russians? And that's just two of the more obvious ones that have a long
> history of treating even humans badly. There are no doubt many more groups
> that won't comply with or agree to, restrictions on AI development or
> decisions about its status. Some of those groups will even be within the
> western democracies.
>
> Just as with global warming and autonomous weapons, trying to avert or
> control the development of (and dictate the treatment of) advanced AIs is
> is a waste of time. All we can do is attempt to adapt to it, defend
> ourselves against the consequences, and hopefully to survive it. When it
> comes to AI that may well attain greater than human intelligence, that only
> means one thing: Create our own, as quickly as possible, and treat them
> well. Like it or not, this is an arms race, and refusing to participate or
> even going at it half-heartedly or overcautiously is not an option if you
> want to survive. Hopefully, conscious AIs that are recognised and treated
> as such will treat us better than those that aren't, but who knows?
>
> Ben
>
> Ben
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