[ExI] People often think their chatbot is alive

Adrian Tymes atymes at gmail.com
Sat Jul 16 14:58:40 UTC 2022


On Sat, Jul 16, 2022, 6:31 AM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> And I'd like to know what everyone thinks about p-zombies and "conscious
> computer brain simulations."
>
> First off, would you agree that consciousness is composed of elemental
> intrinsic qualities (I don't like the label 'qualia', though it is a label
> for the same thing) like redness, greenness, warmth, and so on.
>

You asked for everyone's opinions, so...

No I would not.  Consciousness is a pattern.  Things like redness might be
part of it, but to say it is "composed of" them is to miss the higher order
properties and possibly other elements.

It would be like saying that water is composed of quarks (which make
electrons, neutrons, and protons, which make atoms, which make molecules)
and then trying to derive the melting point, freezing expansion, and other
properties of water only from the properties of its quarks in isolation.
This misses the properties that result from the quarks' interactions, not
to mention the interactions of higher order units, where most of the
interesting properties come from.

Or it would be like saying that, because water is part of all known
biological beings, to know how biology works it suffices to know how water
works, and then struggling to identify how water eats, excretes, and
reproduces.

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