[ExI] People often think their chatbot is alive

[Brent Allsop]

Hi Adrian,



On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 5:29 PM Adrian Tymes via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> I suspect this is the example your illustration is trying to posit.
>

Exactly.  I completely agree.  All three of the systems can tell you the
strawberry is "red".  That is what you are talking about.
I'm talking about something different.  I want to know the intrinsic
qualities of things in nature, not just the coolness qualities things seem
to have.  I want to know the specific intrinsic qualities of your
knowledge of red things, and how they are, or aren't different from mine.
You don't seem to care about knowing the intrinsic colorness qualities in
nature.  I'd like to better understand physical reality and what it is
like, and how computation directly on those intrinsic qualities is
different from abstract computation.  You seem to not care about this.

As I pointed out to Stathis, this cannot be denied
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>
> It can be and is being denied.
>

So you think Descartes was wrong when he said: "I think, therefore I am."

And you think the quality of your experience of that pencil, may have some
other quality than your yellowness?
Can I ask you what other colorness quality your knowledge of that pencil
may have?  And how would you know that it isn't your yellowness quality?
And may I ask if it isn't your knowledge that has the yellowness quality
you experience, what is it that does have the yellowness quality you do
experience?
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