[ExI] 27 psychedelics??

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Sat Mar 19 00:58:30 UTC 2022


Why are you so against it?  I don't really understand.  Upbringing?  It
seems very anti-learning.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:23 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> >…Well the thing is, I don't want to play chess when I'm tripping, lol.
> Too much other stuff to think about.
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> >…Various people have tried it anecdotally to success, here's just one:
> https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/chess-experience-with-psilocybin-mushrooms2
> but I know friends who say microdoses improve their performance, as it
> obviously would to anyone who has taken a psychedelic.  Idk, it's not
> really possible to explain, but once you experience it, it will speak for
> itself.  Like I mentioned, cf. Mary the Color Scientist, how do I explain a
> qualitatively fully novel experience with no good words to describe it and
> connect back to the language most people understand?  I'm not trying to be
> an elitist, I'm just highly suggesting you at least try a psychedelic
> before you die, because it is a horrible travesty for someone intelligent
> to go through their entire lives without experiencing it.  That's how
> different and special the experience is, and I'm sure anyone here who is
> also experienced can vouch for me.
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> >…Here is a friendly bet with a positive expected value for you, Spike.
> Take a small dose of psychedelics, and then if you can come back and
> truthfully tell me it ISN'T an experience that every intelligent person
> should try, I will send you 0.25 ETH.  If I win, you don't have to pay me
> anything. ;)
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> Thanks Will.  You know me well enough to not be surprised at my reply to
> that: I flatly refuse to do any such thing as this.  The usual no way Jose
> is an understatement.  I don’t cotton to it.  I shall risk the terrible
> tragedy of perishing without ever having the experience.
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> I went to your link and saw that the test is irrelevant, for players below
> 1000 really don’t understand the game well enough.  Even a series of them
> would have little statistical significance.
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> I can counter-propose an experiment however.  My rating bops around in the
> mid 1800s.  I would challenge some adventurous 18er to eat magic mushrooms
> or whatever else she wishes, then we begin a series of games as the
> medication takes effect, note the location of her butt initially, see if it
> ends up between her shoulder blades a coupla hours later.
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