[ExI] Nobody knows the true colors of things, on this day of color.

Brent Allsop brent.allsop at gmail.com
Sat Mar 19 03:09:12 UTC 2022


Hi Rafal,
So when you say "colors are concept created by our brain to label objects"

What do you mean by "label"?  As in, we label a redness quality,
representing knowledge of a strawberry as "red"
Or are you saying colorness qualities of our knowledge, which are
representing the properties of the surface of the strawberry, are labels of
something?


On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:52 PM Rafal Smigrodzki via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 8:12 PM Jason Resch via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Are there infinitely possible primary colors, given there are infinitely
>> many possible organizations of brains?
>>
>> There're colorblind people and most mammals with two primary colors,
>> primates and fish with three, birds and some tetrachromat humans with four,
>> and I think there's some shrimp with 16. If there's no fundamental limit to
>> the number of primary colors a mind can perceive, then are primary colors
>> physical/chemical/neurological properties, or are they
>> logical/informational/mathematical properties? I lean towards the latter
>> grouping.
>>
>
> ### I thought about it too. If you redo the organization of color rosettes
> in the occipital cortex you should be able to squeeze additional colors
> into the perceived spectrum. You would also need to add bandwidth to the
> subcortical structures and additional parallel color sensors if you wanted
> the new perceived colors to correspond to specific features of the
> environment. Obviously, yes, colors are concepts created by our brain to
> label objects, so they are informational rather than simple physical. This
> is not to say that informational means non-physical but rather
> informational is complex physics that happens in computing devices compared
> to simple physics that describes objects in general.
>
> Rafal
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