[ExI] perception is reality - examples

[Jason Resch]

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022, 7:22 PM BillK via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 at 20:53, Jason Resch via extropy-chat
> <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
> >
> > As an abstract object, those conscious observers in that other universe
> could say nothing of our universe's location, it's mass, or the masses if
> items inside it, velocities of things in our universe, durations of time,
> lengths of distances, etc. So in a sense, these physical properties are
> dependent on being directly perceived by beings within the universe. When
> the universe lacks shared first person plural perspectives, it becomes only
> an abstract object which at best can only be described mathematically as
> some static four dimensional structure.
> >
> > Jason
> > _______________________________________________
>
>
> Well, our universe grew and existed for billions of years before life
> appeared. It certainly possessed many varied physical properties
> before there was a living observer. The universe had to develop and
> change its physical properties in order to create an environment where
> life could appear. It managed to do this just fine without a living
> observer to perceive what it was doing.  :)
>


Of course. All I am saying is that the physical properties like mass, time,
length, etc. are not entirely objective, but require intersubjective
agreement of observers within a universe. And those values remain
meaningless to any observers outside that universe.

It is like asking "how many inches long is a flier in the Game if Life
universe?", Or "how many minutes does it take a flier to traverse twenty
squares?"

There is no meaning to physical units of measure between different,
causally separated universes.

Jason
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