[ExI] Is Artificial Life Conscious?

[Brent Allsop]

Hi Mike,
Sorry, didn't mean to not be trying to understand your POV.
In fact, I very much care about others' POVs.  That's why we created
canonizer, with camps, in the first place.
I'm just saying what I currently think, and basically asking (even if not
explicitly) if anyone else sees things differently.
That's why the most important thing on canonizer is the "create a competing
camp here" button.



On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 4:43 PM Mike Dougherty via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On Thu, May 12, 2022, 6:23 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> It is a necessary truth, that if you know something, that knowledge must
>> be something.
>> And if you have knowledge that has a redness quality, there must be
>> something in your brain that has that quality that is your conscious
>> knowledge.
>> This is true if that stuff is some kind of "Material" or "electromagnetic
>> field" "spiritual" or "functional" stuff, it remains a fact that your
>> knowledge, composed of that, has a redness quality.
>>
>
> You know we can agree on a conversational level despite having exchanged
> zero informational content,  right?
>
> You seem to be accepting that my appreciation or understanding of ...
> well, anything... is antithetical to every premise you have thus far
> attempted to promote.
>
> "Stuffness comes from fundamental stuff"
> ... is hardly a point of successful understanding.
>
> You can walk a mile in my shoes, but all you can assert is how that feels
> on your feet.  Maybe that's all you ever wanted.  Maybe that's all you'll
> ever get.  Idk.
>
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