[ExI] Truth has a liberal bias [elon on twitter]

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Perhaps I’m mistaken, but isn’t political discussion banned on this email list?

> On Nov 3, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> On Nov 3, 2022, at 9:23 AM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>> wrote:
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>> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> On Behalf Of Dan TheBookMan via extropy-chat
>>> ... I recall years ago with the Boston marathon attacks how a now as we know unrelated explosion was initially thought to be part of it. And a libertarian friend of mine, who was an Alex Jones listener, told me the media are covering up something that the Tsarnaev brothers were fall guys for a federal false flag (of course! It’s always a false flag with the Jones crowd). ...
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>> Eh, the ALEX Jones crowd please Dan.  Do let us specify, when using such a common name.  {8^D
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>> Ja otherwise however.  The FBI surely didn't do itself any favors in the past several years.  They have been caught in at least six huge scandals, that are completely verified, and all are objective yes/no on whether they are real conspiracies which were once thought to be conspiracy "theories."
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>> 1.  The FBI covered up the Biden laptop before the 2020 election, caught the guy who did it, no punishment.
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>> 2.  They falsified evidence to get a FISA warrant, caught and convicted the perp (Kevin Clinesmith) who never went to prison.
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>> 3.  They leaked to the press, caught the guy (FBI Director McCabe) proved that he lied to the FBI.  He never went to prison.
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>> 4.  They haven't explained to us why Ray Epps is not in prison, even though he is on video committing crimes (inciting riots and crossing police lines.)
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>> 5.  The FBI lovers Strzok and Page conspiracy to undermine a sitting POTUS.
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>> 6.  FBI director Comey's role and others, in failure to brief POTUS on Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
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>> Are not all of those confirmed conspiracy theories?
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> I don’t deny conspiracies in general, though the particular person I mentioned was an Alex Jones listener. Note how you switched that to ‘Alex Jones crowd’ dismissively. Do you believe the Boston marathon bombing was a false flag? How about Sandy Hook? How about George Soros: do you believe he was a Nazi collaborator? Or do you think that there’s any credibility to the view that Obama is a Muslim? That’s all stuff on Alex Jones’ show and my friend if he doesn’t believe it tells me one must have an open mind. (Notably, he doesn’t keep an open mind about anti-GOP conspiracies, such as Trump might be a Russian agent or Putin might be blackmailing Trump with videos of Trump being peed on by hookers. And none of those get traction with Alex Jones anyhow. There’s a definite Rightward tilt to what whacky conspiracy is viewed as credible.)
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> Sure, conspiracy’s happen and the FBI is certain known for its various operations that should be viewed as a threat to freedom….
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> You mention only one the ones generally have traction with conservatives and Republicans. (I know you claim to be a libertarian, but deviate toward conservative and Republican stuff. Or I’ve never seen you say, ‘the Democrats or liberals or progressive are definitely right about this while the Republicans (or conservatives or alt right) are ideology blind to it.’) How about many uses by the FBI of informants as agents provocateur, especially in Mosques after 9/11? How about the FBI spying on peace activists from the Vietnam Era to today?
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> The FBI’s abuses are not recent. They extend back to its formation, in fact. But it’s kind of Right wing talking point that the FBI has been morally pure until recent years (either with Biden or with Obama). No mention of how removing the few safeguards against the FBI running amok — remember a certain Republican president doing so in the early 2000s — maybe wasn’t such a good idea.
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> Side note: How many FBI directors have been Democrats? The only one I’m aware served a mere 71 days as acting director. The rest were all Republicans. Why is that? (This isn’t to blame the GOP. The Democratic Party has played second fiddle to the GOP on expanding federal police powers and abuses. The American police state is a bipartisan project. But, notably, the more Left a Democrat is, the less likely they’re to support this. Moderates like Biden, Clinton, and Obama helped to add to the police state, but folks AOC don’t. So it’s really an example of how far to the Right American mainstream politics are.) 
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> Regards,
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> Dan 
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