[ExI] Missile Coordinates

[sjatkins]

Why is this even a thing? Poland borders on a region in a hot shooting war. Accidental munition hits would be expected. Regardless of who fired this particular missile it was an accident. Not something to push for Article 5 invocation, which is to respond to actual invasion and on purpose military assault, as some have done. Poland, arguably for some good reasons, has been strongly anti-Russia for some time. If anyone was going to make a big deal of this they would be likely to. On examination of telemetry it looks like a SAM system that does use Russian hardware. Even if it was a Russian system that fired it and it went astray it makes no material difference to it being an accident. That Ukraine insists despite the analysis that Russia fired it makes no sense. That the world makes it a subject of so much conjecture makes little sense. What exactly would examining the site give of real material value that is not already at hand? Nothing that I can think of.
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On Thursday, November 17th, 2022 at 6:00 AM, Omar Rahman via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> You know that missile that landed in Poland that everyone is now saying was a Ukrainian S300 SAM and definitely not a Russian S300 SAM missile?
>
> Coordinates for:
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> Kiev (50.4505318, 30.5229899)
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> Lviv (49.8395881, 24.0301160)
>
> Take the latitude of Kiev and the longitude of Livi and you get:
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> Place1 (50.4505318, 24.0301160)
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> Place1 is in Poland, and is VERY close to a little village called Pzrewodow where a mysterious missile killed 2 people.
>
> I’m betting on Russian incompetence in entering the coordinates. So, with so many examples of Russian incompetence on display, why am I highlighting this one?
>
> Because the American and Polish governments are not letting the Ukrainian government investigate.
>
> Optimistic scenario: NATO is deescalating the situation.
>
> Pessimistic scenario: NATO just blinked.
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> I’m looking at it from the optimistic scenario point of view.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Regards,
>
> Omar
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