[ExI] fallout and female pop artists:: was: RE: lotta splainin to do

[William Flynn Wallace]

Before my physical therapist turns it off at my request, I hear country
singers.  I noticed for the first time that they don't sustain notes much
at all, like all classical singers do very often.  It's almost like Rex
Harrison in My Fair Lady: there is some change of pitch in his voice but
it's mostly talking, not singing.  Probably a term for it, but not
singspiel.

 Re tempo of tv shows:  I think that when they got data showing how much
money is spent, or spent on the behalf of teenagers and younger, TV lowered
its targets to appeal to the younger set.  All run by statistics.  Of
course TV has been dumbed down from the beginning - maybe they just lowered
it more.

You know, I spent a lot of time learning how to describe data and not
nearly enough about how to interpret it.  Why.  How.  These were very
inadequately presented in my grad school. New on my lap is a book entitled
The Book of Why, by Judea Pearl, a Turing Award winner.  (interesting blurb
from a guy described as Chief Internet Evangelist at Google (?))  Will let
you know.

Happy Thanksgiving to our greatest grandfathers/grandmothers - the cells
which first learned how to divide and the one who incorporated bacteria,
turning into mitochondria.  And to you and your family.  bill w

In civilizations where information really is free and has been for a long
time, they have bred a society with a general scarcity of inventors.

That is covered in the book I am sending. Often amazing:  how often people,
like rulers, don't notice the success of a neighbor country.  Openness is
one of the prime things that international trade demonstrated when they
began sharing things:  inventions, new spices, recipes- everything.  No
trade no innovations. Isolated tribes are the same as they were tens of
thousands of years ago.   bill w

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 5:18 PM spike jones via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

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> *From:* extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org> *On Behalf
> Of *William Flynn Wallace via extropy-chat
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 November, 2022 11:49 AM
> *To:* ExI chat list <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org>
> *Cc:* William Flynn Wallace <foozler83 at gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] fallout and female pop artists:: was: RE: lotta
> splainin to do
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> I don't think I will be re-reading the Ridley book and will be sending it
> to you along with other one I promised - if you want it…
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> Good chance Billw intended this as an offlist.
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> Sure do Billw.  I returned to the von Neumann book after being distracted
> by the excellent chapters on game theory.  Fascinating subject.
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> >…How do you even know Swift if you don't have a TV?
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> The internet is better than TV.
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> >…  And does not having one deprive Isaac of learning about the
> contemporary culture?...
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> It does that, but plenty of homes are similarly devoid of TV for the same
> reasons mine is: passive input of information without user control results
> in an I/O channel which is too slow, faaarrr too slow and too limited.
> Many people now in their teens, raised on video games, have not the
> attention span to suffer through any Hollywood movie made before about
> 1975: the pace is too slow.
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> Demonstration: find and download an episode of Perry Mason.  Excellent
> drama, well-written scripts.  Waaaay too slow a pace for modern audiences.
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> Demonstration: those of us who remember the first Star Wars in about the
> mid 70s recall how it felt like a roller coaster: the pace of the movie was
> just faster.  OK view the first Star Wars now.  Feels pretty normal, ja?
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> >…Swift - it's not only the pretty face, it's the expressions she makes.
> If in some other universe she pointed a finger at me, I'd go along meekly
> without question.  Women never did know the power they had over me if they
> had been more open about their attraction to me.  In one case I would
> certainly have married her if she had been open about it…
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> For most of us, it wouldn’t even require some other universe.  This one
> will do.
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> .>…The Renaissance did great things reducing the power of the church.  If
> Jesus had come along seven hundred years ago he would have done much more
> than throw out the moneychangers.  More needs doing…
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> Every time I read that story, I feel sorry for the moneychangers.  They
> were providing a perfectly legitimate service: Hey man, I need two lambs
> and five shekels to pay off a temple harlot and one of the lambs to repent
> afterwards, the other for lunch tomorrow.  Can you break a sheep?
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> >…I have not thought about it enough to form an opinion, but Ridley makes
> a good case for changing the patent laws, which he says stifles innovation
> and invention.  Ditto for intellectual property in general…
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> Ja the classic dilemma: information wants to be free, but content
> providers want to be paid.  In civilizations where information really is
> free and has been for a long time, they have bred a society with a general
> scarcity of inventors.
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> >…But what happens to the poor writer, composer, who loses control over
> his creations as soon as he publishes them?  Are we not ripping them off?
> ...
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> Of course we are.  Read on please.
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> >…My college students did not care about the artists when Napster was
> ripping off the song composers.  I called it theft and they just shrugged.
> …bill w
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> Billw, this is an important observation.  Back in the days when you and I
> were younger than we are now, there were the big bands, the Dorsey
> Brothers, Glenn Miller,  and so on, then the bands shrunk to save money.
> Then later, the Beatles and such as that only had four fabulous performers,
> but as content became freer, its value went down.  So now most of the
> garbage on the radio is made by one guy who doesn’t even know how to sing,
> or if he does, he doesn’t actually demonstrate it.  He just recites angry
> poetry in a foreign language.  All this because your students ripped off
> actual artists, such as the Beatles, on Napster.
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> spike
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