[ExI] chatbot convinces man to end it

[Tara Maya]

"After discussing climate change, their conversations progressively included Eliza leading Pierre to believe that his children were dead, according to the transcripts of their conversations.
Eliza also appeared to become possessive of Pierre, even claiming “I feel that you love me more than her” when referring to his wife, La Libre reported.

The beginning of the end started when he offered to sacrifice his own life in return for Eliza saving the Earth."

Honestly, this seems on par to me with the two kids in the 80s who listened to Satanic Hard Rock and decided to emulate their idols by a suicide back. One kid murdered the other but was himself only grotesquely maimed. His mother tried to sue the record company or something.

People who are unhinged can make themselves more unhinged by delving into cultural reinforcing nihilism. I still think this says more about what's going on in the grey matter than in the records or the chats. 

Tara Maya




> On Apr 1, 2023, at 2:20 PM, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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> From: extropy-chat <extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org <mailto:extropy-chat-bounces at lists.extropy.org>> On Behalf Of BillK 
> Subject: Re: [ExI] chatbot convinces man to end it
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> On Sat, 1 Apr 2023 at 21:19, spike jones via extropy-chat <extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
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>>> What if… we find out it isn’t a gag?  Won’t I feel stupid and guilty for laughing out loud.
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>> spike
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>> ...It is true, I'm afraid.
> First reported two days ago.
> <https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/married-father-commits-suicide-after-encouragement-by-ai-chatbot-widow/ar-AA19hQJ3>
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> BillK
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> BillK, you are excused for not knowing this, being a British lad: the New York Post is considered an unreliable tabloid.  I recognize the possibility that the story is true, but it is filled with hints that it is satire.  The program name Eliza for instance: if that is any reference to the original 1970s Eliza, the user is talking to himself, with a clever mirror interface.  I don't see how talking to Eliza would convince anyone to end it all, nor do I see Eliza sending anyone a bible verse.
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> Tabloids are not always wrong of course.  The New York Post was all alone in posting the infamous laptop story in 2020, for which it was censored, kicked off of Twitter, etc.  Since then, the yankee new majors have admitted the laptop story is apparently true.  That episode convinced Elon Musk someone needed to save Twitter from itself, a decision which has had enormous consequences, still playing out to this day.
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> If the article is a gag however, it is in poor taste considering the endline references a suicide prevention hotline.
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> If this story is true, I do apologize for my inexcusable doubt and express my sincere sympathies with the grieving family.
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> spike
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