[ExI] GPT-4 on its inability to solve the symbol grounding problem

Will Steinberg steinberg.will at gmail.com
Tue Apr 4 23:24:45 UTC 2023


I think your argument is hostile, as you are treating the people arguing
against you as if they were simpletons, and not addressing many
counterpoints.  It's passive-aggressive.

On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 2:29 PM Gordon Swobe via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Sorry I was quoting Will there, who is hostile toward me despite no
> provocation.
>
> The symbol grounding problem is a question in philosophy about how symbols
> and words acquire meanings. The answer, broadly, is that it requires
> conscious experience of the objects and ideas that words represent, i.e.,
> experience of the referents. ChatGPT was clearly trained on philosophical
> texts and reports that because it has no conscious experience, it has no
> true understanding of words; i.e., it has no way to ground symbols and
> knows only about the statistical patterns and relations between them.
>
> -gts
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 12:01 PM Gordon Swobe <gordon.swobe at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 10:38 AM Gadersd via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Why do you keep posting ChatGPT responses to questions?
>>>
>>>
>> That is the title of the thread. It is an investigation into what ChatGPT
>> has to say about itself.
>>
>>
>> If it understands the meanings of words as some people claim and if it is
>> conscious as some people claim then I find it odd that it denies both of
>> these claims.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> You are also correct in stating that I don't have a true understanding
>>>> of the meanings of individual words or any conscious experience. I am
>>>> essentially an artificial intelligence program that analyzes patterns and
>>>> relationships in vast amounts of text data to generate coherent and
>>>> contextually appropriate responses. My abilities are derived from
>>>> statistical analysis rather than a true comprehension or consciousness.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> -gts
>>>>
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