[ExI] the gut etc.

William Flynn Wallace foozler83 at gmail.com
Fri Apr 7 19:14:45 UTC 2023


I agree.  I can't see the gut as having any effects on our basic
personality, such as introversion.  I hope you ate a lot of leafy greens:
best way to restart the gut.  bill w

On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:20 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> On 07/04/2023 17:58, bill w wrote:
>
> Ben, all I know is that recent research has discovered a multitude of
> things the gut does that affect our bodies and brains.  Some have referred
> to it as a second mind.  Maybe we will find out that it even has memories
> and can learn.  bill w
>
> On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 2:15 AM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> > How do you upload a gut and glial cells?  bill w
>>
>> I don't care about the gut itself (why would an upload need one? And if
>> a simulated gut turned out to be useful or even necessary, a generic one
>> would be fine, I'm sure), but the glia is an interesting one. I don't
>> know the answer, we don't really know what role - if any - they play in
>> our indentities yet, so we have to leave that one for the future.
>
>
> Yes, I've heard such things too, and more. Apparently the microbiome in
> our guts can have a large influence on both our state of mind and our
> immune system.
>
> On the other hand, I've had severe gastroenteritis in the past, and the
> attendant antibiotics and near-total reboot of my gut flora, and it never,
> as far as I was aware, made any difference to who I was. I never noticed
> any change, and neither did my friends or family.
>
> An experiment I would be quite willing to undertake, would be to live
> without my gut and attendant neural equipment (provided I didn't die or
> become ill - which suggests this experiment could only be realistically be
> performed on an upload), and see if it resulted in any significant change
> in my personality.
>
> My guess is that it wouldn't.
>
> An experiment worth doing, though, I'd agree, when we can (actually, this
> experiment, or something close, could possibly be done before we can do
> uploading, but again, that's a whole other topic).
>
> Is the solar plexus (or whatever it's popular to call it these days)
> really an important part of who we are?
>
> i think that it has the status of a 'sub-mind' dedicated to digestive
> matters. How important that is to our identity is anyone's guess. Mine is:
> Not much.
>
> Maybe it differs between individuals.
>
> Ben
>
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