[ExI] chatgpt plus google translate

[Giovanni Santostasi]

Darin,
I tried first withing the same instance and I suspected the same thing. But
then I copied and pasted each translation between different instances (that
do not have access to the other ones) and the final result is shown and it
is basically identical to original.
Giovanni

On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:51 AM Giovanni Santostasi <gsantostasi at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No, because I tried different instances.
>
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:37 AM Darin Sunley via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> GPT4 has a 30,000 token attention buffer. A token is basically a word,
>> not  a character. It's just playing the original English back out of the
>> buffer, not retranslating, I strongly suspect.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 9:16 PM Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> F Incredible. I used a different instance of GPT-4 to translate the
>>> symbolic language back to English.
>>> I asked an AI to make up a symbolic language and write a short essay on
>>> a particular topic. I will show the sequence of symbols and I want you to
>>> try to translate the best you can or at least guess the topic of the essay
>>> expressed by these symbols. ������������������������������
>>>
>>> Based on the sequence of symbols you've provided, it appears that the
>>> AI-generated symbolic language might be related to the following topic:
>>>
>>> The interconnectedness and collaboration of people around the world in
>>> various domains such as environmental conservation, education, art, and
>>> culture.
>>>
>>> Here's a possible translation of the symbols:
>>>
>>> �� - Earth, representing the global context �� - Interconnectedness or
>>> collaboration �� - People, indicating a focus on human relationships �� -
>>> Cooperation, emphasizing collaborative efforts �� - Environmental
>>> conservation or sustainable growth �� - Excellence or achievements �� -
>>> Global community or international relations �� - Diversity or a range of
>>> perspectives �� - Integration or blending of ideas �� - Communication or
>>> dialogue �� - Education or knowledge sharing �� - Art and creative
>>> expression �� - Precious or valuable contributions �� - Culture,
>>> representing various traditions and customs �� - Music or harmony, possibly
>>> symbolizing unity
>>>
>>> From this interpretation, the short essay might be discussing the
>>> importance of global collaboration and interconnectedness in addressing
>>> environmental issues, promoting education, and fostering cultural exchange
>>> and artistic expression.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 6:22 PM Giovanni Santostasi <
>>> gsantostasi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok now create a symbol for each concept we express in this essay and
>>>> translate to this strange alien language you can use graphic symbols or
>>>> number anything you like but make sure each concept is a different symbol.
>>>> Then rewrite the essay above with these symbols and show me a list of the
>>>> symbols after your translation.
>>>>
>>>> Creating a completely new and unique symbol for each concept in the
>>>> essay might not be feasible or practical, but I can create a simple, unique
>>>> symbol for each major concept in the essay and then provide a list of these
>>>> symbols. Here's an attempt to create such a symbol-based representation:
>>>>
>>>> Symbols:
>>>>
>>>>    1. Beauty of language: ❁
>>>>    2. Unique intricacies and nuances: ✥
>>>>    3. Expressive tapestry: ✺
>>>>    4. Connecting people: ⌘
>>>>    5. Cultural barriers: ≋
>>>>    6. Translation process: ⧬
>>>>    7. Lost nuances: ⨂
>>>>    8. Misunderstandings and misinterpretations: ⨁
>>>>    9. Challenges: ⧳
>>>>    10. Complexity and variety of languages: ⧚
>>>>    11. Rich landscape: ⨝
>>>>    12. Human communication and expression: ⥾
>>>>    13. Shared human experience: ⧉
>>>>
>>>> Symbol-based representation: ❁ ✥ ✺ ⌘ ≋ ⧬ ⨂ ⨁ ⧳ ⧚ ⨝ ⥾ ⧉
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 5:51 PM <spike at rainier66.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *…*> *On Behalf Of *Giovanni Santostasi via extropy-chat
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ExI] chatgpt plus google translate
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> English essay: The beauty of language lies in the unique intricacies
>>>>> and …
>>>>>
>>>>> …
>>>>>
>>>>> Back to English translation (from Italian text): The beauty of
>>>>> language lies in the unique complexities …
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well OK then.  ChatGPT appears to have solved the problem of multiple
>>>>> language translations.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now all those US translators have no more value.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> spike
>>>>>
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