[ExI] My guesses about GPTs consciousness

[Brent Allsop]

Very interesting.
Was there any qualities you had never experienced before?  Or was it just
flavors made of light qualities, and other remapping of qualities you were
already familiar with?


On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 12:30 PM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Just strange things like sparkly pastries and layered milkshakes, those
> are some I remember.   Used to lucid dream a lot so one time I remember I
> tried eating some salsa and I woke myself up and spit it onto my bed in the
> hypnagogic state.   At the time I felt I was so close to actually bringing
> something back from the dream world, lol
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 2:00 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm jealous.  I've never experienced taste and smell in dreams.
>> I want to know what "fanciful' is like so I can know the meaning of that
>> term in that context.
>> I bet someday we'll know which of all our objective descriptions of stuff
>> in the brain, is a description of that kind of subjective 'fanciful'.
>> And I'm looking forward to being able to say: "oh THAT is what that kind
>> of fanciful taste is like."
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Wtf I have all my senses in my dreams....
>>>
>>> When I was a kid I used to try and eat in dreams specifically cuz the
>>> food was always so fanciful
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 5:23 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
>>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 16/04/2023 19:07, bill w wrote:
>>>>
>>>> One cannot sense without consciousness  Jason
>>>>
>>>> Oh yes we can - dreams.  Visual, mostly, rarely auditory, never touch,
>>>> smell or taste (unless some chat member reports any of those. )   bill w
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can definitely report that my dreams sometimes incorporate sound
>>>> (playing a musical instrument) and touch (we won't go there). Don't recall
>>>> taste or smell, though. Proprioception as well, though, very commonly (as
>>>> in, almost always. Many of my dreams are about movement - running, cycling,
>>>> skating, flying, as well as less common and physically impossible ways of
>>>> moving - and I can feel the motion, not just see it).
>>>>
>>>> The question of whether we are conscious while dreaming is an
>>>> interesting one, though. Lucid dreaming - are we really conscious then? And
>>>> I sometimes have what I'd call 'semi-lucid' dreams where I can control
>>>> events, or at least influence them, but am not as conscious as in a lucid
>>>> dream.
>>>>
>>>> Ben
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