[ExI] My guesses about GPTs consciousness

[Will Steinberg]

Just strange things like sparkly pastries and layered milkshakes, those are
some I remember.   Used to lucid dream a lot so one time I remember I tried
eating some salsa and I woke myself up and spit it onto my bed in the
hypnagogic state.   At the time I felt I was so close to actually bringing
something back from the dream world, lol

On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 2:00 PM Brent Allsop via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

>
> I'm jealous.  I've never experienced taste and smell in dreams.
> I want to know what "fanciful' is like so I can know the meaning of that
> term in that context.
> I bet someday we'll know which of all our objective descriptions of stuff
> in the brain, is a description of that kind of subjective 'fanciful'.
> And I'm looking forward to being able to say: "oh THAT is what that kind
> of fanciful taste is like."
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>> Wtf I have all my senses in my dreams....
>>
>> When I was a kid I used to try and eat in dreams specifically cuz the
>> food was always so fanciful
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 5:23 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
>> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 16/04/2023 19:07, bill w wrote:
>>>
>>> One cannot sense without consciousness  Jason
>>>
>>> Oh yes we can - dreams.  Visual, mostly, rarely auditory, never touch,
>>> smell or taste (unless some chat member reports any of those. )   bill w
>>>
>>>
>>> I can definitely report that my dreams sometimes incorporate sound
>>> (playing a musical instrument) and touch (we won't go there). Don't recall
>>> taste or smell, though. Proprioception as well, though, very commonly (as
>>> in, almost always. Many of my dreams are about movement - running, cycling,
>>> skating, flying, as well as less common and physically impossible ways of
>>> moving - and I can feel the motion, not just see it).
>>>
>>> The question of whether we are conscious while dreaming is an
>>> interesting one, though. Lucid dreaming - are we really conscious then? And
>>> I sometimes have what I'd call 'semi-lucid' dreams where I can control
>>> events, or at least influence them, but am not as conscious as in a lucid
>>> dream.
>>>
>>> Ben
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