[ExI] My guesses about GPTs consciousness

[Brent Allsop]

I'm jealous.  I've never experienced taste and smell in dreams.
I want to know what "fanciful' is like so I can know the meaning of that
term in that context.
I bet someday we'll know which of all our objective descriptions of stuff
in the brain, is a description of that kind of subjective 'fanciful'.
And I'm looking forward to being able to say: "oh THAT is what that kind of
fanciful taste is like."


On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM Will Steinberg via extropy-chat <
extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:

> Wtf I have all my senses in my dreams....
>
> When I was a kid I used to try and eat in dreams specifically cuz the food
> was always so fanciful
>
> On Sun, Apr 16, 2023, 5:23 PM Ben Zaiboc via extropy-chat <
> extropy-chat at lists.extropy.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 16/04/2023 19:07, bill w wrote:
>>
>> One cannot sense without consciousness  Jason
>>
>> Oh yes we can - dreams.  Visual, mostly, rarely auditory, never touch,
>> smell or taste (unless some chat member reports any of those. )   bill w
>>
>>
>> I can definitely report that my dreams sometimes incorporate sound
>> (playing a musical instrument) and touch (we won't go there). Don't recall
>> taste or smell, though. Proprioception as well, though, very commonly (as
>> in, almost always. Many of my dreams are about movement - running, cycling,
>> skating, flying, as well as less common and physically impossible ways of
>> moving - and I can feel the motion, not just see it).
>>
>> The question of whether we are conscious while dreaming is an interesting
>> one, though. Lucid dreaming - are we really conscious then? And I sometimes
>> have what I'd call 'semi-lucid' dreams where I can control events, or at
>> least influence them, but am not as conscious as in a lucid dream.
>>
>> Ben
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